136. The Power of Surrendering to Love Passing Down Wisdom and Leaving a Legacy with Jon Wellington

What happens when a Gen X dad with a knack for humor navigates the wild world of social media? Meet John Wellington, the Dad Bod Veteran, as he shares his journey blending comedy, family life, and the bizarre digital trends that define today's online culture. John dishes out hilarious stories about generational quirks, the absurdity of certain social media challenges, and how Gen X stands between Boomers and Millennials in the digital age. Ever wondered how a performance by Megan Thee Stallion for Kamala Harris fits into this mix? John's got the anecdotes and insights to keep you laughing and thinking.

Navigating the tricky terrain of political polarization, John opens up about the challenges of staying neutral in a divided digital world. As a veteran content creator, he discusses the demographic pigeonholing he faces and the expectations placed upon him based on his background. From balancing stand-up comedy tours to addressing serious topics like mental health among veterans, John’s journey is a blend of humor and heartfelt advocacy. We also riff on quirky fashion trends like the rise of Crocs and laugh about the societal phenomenon depicted in "Idiocracy," all while stressing the importance of mental health support for those who serve.

From the whimsical musings on winning the lottery to the deeper reflections on legacy and self-discovery, this episode is a rollercoaster of emotions and insights. John shares his transformation from a full-time dad to a content creator capturing moments for future generations. We talk about the surreal experience of social media fame, the importance of embracing life’s extra innings, and the power of saying "yes" to new opportunities. Join us for a candid, hilarious, and thought-provoking conversation that celebrates the resilience of Gen X and the fascinating journey of life.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Gen X Comedy and Social Media
• 12:13 Demographic Pigeonholing in Content Creation
• 16:39 Unlikely Path to Stand-Up Comedy
• 28:40 Navigating Legacy and Self-Discovery
• 41:17 Navigating Dreams and Self-Discovery
• 48:51 Embracing Extra Innings of Life
• 58:15 Embracing Surrender and Courage in Life
• 1:06:13 Aging Humor and Physical Changes
• 1:16:33 Embracing Acceptance and Purpose
• 1:20:01 Passing Wisdom to the Next Generation
• 1:32:40 Comedy Riffing and Unconventional Money-Making
• 1:45:57 Navigating Social Media Dynamics
• 1:49:35 YouTube Promotion and Comedy Collaboration

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:09

All right, what's up? Warriors, welcome back to the battlefield of mind. Today I'm with the dad by veteran veteran, john Wellington. So the dad bad veteran, please tell the people who you are, what you do, if they're probably following you before they were following me anyway, so let them know for like almost two years now.

Speaker 2: 0:32

Other than that, outside in the real world I still hold a real job and I got a bunch of kids and I'm a Navy vet, so did that too way along and I don't know how to do this part. You know, this is weird, the weird part of like acting like you're a celebrity and telling everybody about yourself.

Speaker 1: 0:52

Well, I feel like you did it. Yeah, like you did it. Hey, I did some cool stuff. You should check it out.

Speaker 2: 0:57

You just tell them like if you want to check it out, check it out here and then we can get going. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm the dad bod veteran, as. So the little sign over there says um, content creator for about two years now. Um, if you want to look me up on any of the socials, just look for the dad bod veteran and excuse all the spoof uh accounts there are out there and check out my stuff Mostly Gen X related comedy Reactional comedy is what it's turned into but it originated as kind of the stories of the times before and kind of how it was like growing up in the Gen X era.

Speaker 1: 1:28

So, yeah, that's me. I'm happy to be here, by the way. Oh, thank you. Yeah, thank you too Great, great beard. Yeah, thank you too, great beard. That Salt-N-Pepa is in right now. I know that's all the rage. So the Gen X thing, all right. Here's a funny thing. I'm wondering how many people don't know what age Gen X is.

Speaker 2: 1:45

Really.

Speaker 1: 1:46

Yeah, I'm sure there are people who are like I mean half of the statistics forget about us, so that's okay.

Speaker 2: 1:55

That's true, everyone's millennial, right? Yeah, everybody's a millennial, or?

Speaker 1: 1:56

they're a boomer like they just skip right over gen x.

Speaker 2: 1:58

It's 65 to 80 according to the majority of the stuff that I've read. But then there's this weird crossover. I call them the day walkers, the, the zennials, those of us who fall into the like 76, usually to about 83 84, uh, time period. I call them the day walkers because they're too feral to be in the house, but they're a little bit too housebroken to stay outside all day long. Domesticated yeah, they're a little domesticated, but they can understand the Gen X ways and still work through that transition into the millennials and understand technology and things like that. Where, you know, some of those older Gen Xers are a little rigid, if you will.

Speaker 1: 2:42

A little set in their ways A little, almost boomerish, yeah Still fighting for just their one political party, that's right. You know there's more to us than that right.

Speaker 2: 2:52

Right, you know, it's not a real team right, your team didn't win.

Speaker 1: 2:56

You know that right. Yeah, exactly, you know you didn't even pick the captain. You know that. Right now it's funny, man, like so some of the what are some of the funny things you're noticing with, like the stuff you're doing, because there's a lot of really silly things I'm watching that. You're like okay, first off, we got to save some people on this one Don't cut off the ends on your tires, those aren't antennas like people who are just telling people to do crazy things. And I got to say like I don't spend very much time on my social media, so how long are you having people like search these, like John, this is the craziest shit, make a video with this. I literally have more.

Speaker 2: 3:32

Uh, john, this is the craziest shit. Make a video with this. I literally have more offers to do stuff like that than I have time to do them all. I forget more than I actually do. Honestly, that's funny.

Speaker 2: 3:42

It's weird and I don't know when social media became a platform for idiocracy, because that's kind of like a staple of my platform. This is like more on the road to idiocracy. I don't know when that happened, but I feel like it's picking up speed and I feel like there's no one to to sanitize it and that's kind of the space that I'm fitting in is like the reality check of no, no, no, we probably shouldn't do that. We really shouldn't do that.

Speaker 1: 4:08

It's a. It's a really interesting time because, like psych wise, like um, it's a really interesting time because, like psych wise, like it's, there's some terrible things happening, but comedy wise, it's fucking silly, like there's, like this like it's.

Speaker 1: 4:21

At some point you're like that's not a thing. My daughter is actually even with this thing where the idiocracy so like you know how. Terry Crews was the president and he was like a world wrestling champion and the president of the United States. Well, like um, my daughter just went to college this year. It's her first year in college and she was showing me the thing where Megan the stallion is doing the opening for Kamala Harris and she's got to bleep out every like other word because the whole word is like shit, hose, bitch. And it's like the hashtag was hose for Harrisris. And I said you're fucking with me, that's not a real thing. She's like no, it's a real thing. I'll show you the video and I was like there's no way. They got a rapper, half naked, dancing up there with a bunch of backup dancers and talking like having to bleep out her own words. Hashtag hose for harris. The the amount of pandering and shenanigans that is. There's no way. That's a thing. You're fucking with me. She's like.

Speaker 2: 5:16

Here's the video I feel like we're gonna make it happen. We're gonna make it. We don't want it to happen. We all look at it and we like it's like that train. You know everybody's kind of deer in the headlights of the train. We're all looking at it. We're like, oh, that's coming right at us. We can't actually turn away. We can't turn away because we're mesmerized. It's beautiful, it's beautiful, but it's going to kill us all and it's wild, so shiny I don't know how we, how we got away from it.

Speaker 2: 5:44

I mean it, and it created a space for me, which is the weird part. I'm like, at the same time I'm asking for it to stop, but at the same time I'm not, because if then I'm gonna have to pivot and I don't know what else I'm gonna do, I don't know, maybe I'm gonna start a cooking channel or something like that.

Speaker 1: 6:00

Yeah, but you're a wonderful cook, so it's gonna be a great show. I'm not the cook in the house. Oh well, then it's gonna be even better show. Yeah right, this is called what Not to Do Cooking Show. First off, let's get into my world famous recipe that no one's ever going to want to try. Do not cook this at home. I'm going to put this in there. This is what you should not do.

Speaker 2: 6:22

This is what you should not put in there. No hot sauce in your cereal. Just don't do it. Well, it depends on the cereal.

Speaker 1: 6:29

So there's a lot going on in here, a lot of funny stuff, man. So there's a lot going on in here, a lot of funny stuff, man. What's some of the funny stuff that you're seeing out there right now, where you're like this, this, just how are we gonna even get around this? There's got to be stuff that, like that, just always comes up it.

Speaker 2: 6:42

Yeah, routinely it's stuff with vehicles, kids and vehicles. I mean, that's probably the most common one I could probably write a book on and that's what I even said I want to in that last one with the g. I'm like my page is turning like a new age shade tree mechanic.

Speaker 1: 6:55

Dude, the serpentine belt, one for every 10,000 miles. I was like, what is this?

Speaker 2: 7:02

Or the jumper cable, one where they had the reverse jumper cable. Then it was like melting. It's like oh my. God, kids, come on. The bald tire one, that's just yeah.

Speaker 1: 7:15

You're like if you're racing, awesome if you're driving next to me on the freeway. No, this is not okay.

Speaker 2: 7:18

This is not okay, I don't want you there, I want you somewhere else, far away, yeah but it's it's true.

Speaker 2: 7:24

I mean, I I don't think the kids are taught like we were and I'm sounding like an old person now but you know, I was kind of had. I had a minimum number of things that I had to know how to do to the car before I could even go get my license. It was change a tire, jumpstart it and do some of these basic things, and then, of course, that evolved into me tinkering with it. But they couldn't do it if they had to. And it's not just their fault, right, the technology in the cars is way beyond anything. If you touch, touch it, you're going to break the whole thing.

Speaker 2: 7:52

So they shouldn't be touching it, uh, but they couldn't change the tire if they had to, and that's scary. It is very scary. That's scary, like I know that a lot of these people that I'm hitting on are satire. Right, they're doing it on purpose, but the reality is is that there's so many kids out there that don't know when it's time to change the tire, right, they don't know that you stick the penny in the tread and you know if you can see lincoln's head, you're good, right, yeah or or.

Speaker 1: 8:18

Uh, there's such a low amount of critical thinking that they actually will start like chopping the ends off their tires because like that's a gps and I don't want you tracked right. You're like that isn't. That's not a gps thing, dude. Like that's how you put the air in the tires. What are you talking about? It's not a GPS thing, dude. That's how you put the air in the tires. What are you talking?

Speaker 2: 8:33

about. It's not. I remember we had a Chilton's manual in the bathroom.

Speaker 1: 8:37

You know what?

Speaker 2: 8:38

I mean we were reading that thing for fun because we didn't have the phone. Yeah, so I see it's out of the shampoo bottle. That's what we got to look at.

Speaker 1: 8:47

And the shampoo was just hard to sound them out.

Speaker 2: 8:49

So I'm just you how to pull that V8. I can tell you how to pull it the whole thing I know which bolts.

Speaker 1: 8:55

And working on cars is still brutal, man, you know I'm going to throw it out there. I just it was probably. I think two and a half, maybe three weeks ago. I had to work on a piece in the steering wheel column that was like in the very back of the steering wheel column, this little rubber piece in the steering wheel column, and in order to get to it I had to take all of it apart and drop the entire steering wheel shaft just to get to this weird thing. I had to use little allen wrenches to get to. It was probably one of the top five hardest jobs I've ever done.

Speaker 1: 9:22

I do hard shit all the time and I was like this is like a two-person job because I had to like push the whole. I'm laying down on the ground and they're pushing the whole shaft off just trying to line this one bolt up. I'm like sweating, like I've got a gun to my head while I'm doing this thing and I'm like this is actually pushing my limit right now. I'm like I'm frustrated and uh, these are just things that people like. They're like um, I don't think that's a real thing. I'm pretty sure it's just radio and pedals and I'm like no, there's a bunch of pieces inside, there's a lot of pieces in there. There's 50 wires hooked up in this thing. There's a lot happening and they're like I don't see any of those. That's not a thing. Those are probably just for the radio.

Speaker 2: 10:54

Yeah, and you can't change the radio now either.

Speaker 1: 10:57

If you have a car that's like 2020 or beyond, you can't actually change the radio out, so there's no point it connected to the engine somehow how we put those subs in there, man, I got woofers and stuff and oh, I remember that, had those my back dash yeah 76 firebird had the had two 12s in the back dash but we didn't

Speaker 1: 11:14

knock the back window out the window still just shook and made it sound terrible. Yeah, so like this, and we did it all ourselves right, we did everything ourselves running the wires all the way down and then having to cover them up in the carpet, janky wires hanging out.

Speaker 2: 11:28

Don't step there. You're gonna knock my amp off dude, watch the amp. Come on man yeah, seriously watch my amp it's. It's kind of under the seat kind of that's cool.

Speaker 1: 11:39

Well, in this case, I'm gonna get into some funnier stuff then, like, we can go into the deep stuff if you ever want to. But all right, I got the. Remember the family, like you know what really grinds my gears.

Speaker 2: 11:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:49

All right, give me something that's like you know what man, you know what grinds my gears today. You know what's the thing that like, if I could do a genie, wish I'd fix this thing right now. I'll give you like all right, john, I'm your genie lamp and with something that grinds your gears.

Speaker 2: 12:12

I will, I will genie the, I will, I will genie this thing away for you. You know that's hard for me because as I, as I want to say, as experienced as I am in the world, and you know, not toot my own horn but I'm so like passive about so many things, because of the fact that I'm just like, oh, that's just the world and I'm just here for a little bit more time and then eventually I get to cash out and I don't really care what happens, but I don't know what I think about. Uh, I think, I think that if I, if you, could get rid of people's obsession with politics, that'd be huge.

Speaker 2: 12:41

Yeah, that'd be huge because there are people that are, you know, even in my world, that try to polarize me and they try to put me in a bucket and I'm completely anti-politics, like it's. I don't touch it with a 10-foot pole, I don't, I don't care what your thoughts or opinions are, and maybe that's the real gen x in me is, I really just don't care. Um, you guys do whatever you want to do, but don't bring it into my space, because I don't, I don't care and I kind of I guess I cater to a certain group of people with my content. Um, that's not by intention, it's just that's where it goes, and, uh, that that group may have a particular political preference, but that's not me, and so get rid of that.

Speaker 1: 13:25

Yeah, I think I think you're, I think you're already, your wish is already being granted because, like this, this last four years especially, it's made like small pockets of really extreme people, but I have a very hard time like meeting people who fall really polarized. These days they're like oh no, the whole thing's a construct and bullshit, like it's all obviously a gimmick and uh, it's a, it's an algorithm game. Uh, we're aware now that there's a programming that's happening here and you know again. Again, though I don't think that I'm in like the below average conversation circles, I'm in like the high psych circles, the arena speakers I'm in the people like, no, we pay attention and we watch what's happening.

Speaker 1: 14:06

That that's not a real thing. So I also could be a little bit on a, on a the enlightened end. So I don't, maybe I'm not the best, the best, because I'm like I'm, I don't think it's a real thing, man, I don't.

Speaker 2: 14:20

I think that well then, maybe I I have a propensity to gravitate towards those people with my content, because I feel like I see them a lot. And I feel like if I go anything that would even appear to be somewhat on the other side, I get nailed for it in the comments.

Speaker 1: 14:38

It's because you have veteran in the name. Yeah, I know which is weird.

Speaker 2: 14:42

It means like you have to fit a demographic. Yeah, I don't, but I don't. I have a veteran in the name because I'm a veteran right. Served yeah, Same thing with the dad bod. I mean I'm not going to call myself, you know, say skinny things, I'm just a big guy. It's weird and I've got three other really close content creator friends and we're all unintentionally pigeoned into certain demographics yes, I saw that.

Speaker 1: 15:11

I saw some. I was watching a couple of your episodes that you guys had up, like I was watching the delete this episode one. Yeah, you guys have your podcast.

Speaker 2: 15:19

We got like four different, four different, four different, like people who are different, they all have different things, right well, so I've got, so I have a podcast of my own right and that's my Check your Feelings podcast, and that is me, my sister, mrs Dadbod and my brother-in-law, and we do that in the living room where we just set up a whole set studio in there and do that. But then my other group of friends are Gen Xers. We're big content creators and we're doing this Gen X takeover tour. Right, we just did our first stop in Nashville. We're going to Cleveland next in November.

Speaker 2: 15:52

But if you look at the spectrum of us, it's myself, her name is Kelly Mono, slim Sherry and Mr Professor Nick Harrison. We all are pigeonholed into a certain demographic because of who we are and where we came from, are pigeonholed into a certain demographic because of who we are and where we came from, right, and kind of a little bit towards what our content does. But we all get pigeonholed into these certain demographics. And it's interesting because none of us are None of us are that demographic purely Right. We don't. We're politically agnostic and we don't really care about all that stuff, but we are all naturally pigeonholed by our looks, by our how we talk, how we present ourselves, etc. Into a certain demographic. I think it's horrible thing. It's a horrible thing it's a horrible thing.

Speaker 1: 16:40

I you know I'll be very open. I don't know if I am or not, I don't even check. I'm assuming I'm a white guy. Yeah, you're going to be close to mine, I would imagine. Yeah, it's gotta be.

Speaker 2: 16:51

Gotta be. Just by, just by presentation, it's fantastic.

Speaker 1: 16:56

Thank you.

Speaker 2: 16:58

Depends Outstanding. How was for?

Speaker 1: 17:00

Harris, let's go See.

Speaker 2: 17:07

I would love to touch that one, but I won't touch it because it's believable.

Speaker 1: 17:10

It's nonsense. It's obviously the idiocracy part. That's why I find it's funny because I'm watching more idiocracy where you're seeing really, really smart people going. It's just not the right time to have a kid. It's a really volatile time. It's not a good time to have a kid. We've got to just slow down, Not the volatile time.

Speaker 2: 17:27

It's not a good time to have a kid. We got to just slow down. Not the best time. That not so bright high school football player I'm a good goal y'all.

Speaker 1: 17:32

Yep. You got all the hillbillies and the poverty areas are running kids everywhere and you're like dang.

Speaker 2: 17:42

It was not meant to be a prophecy. It was supposed to be a comedy, but they ruined it. And here's the kicker Everybody's wearing Crocs in that movie. Oh that didn't realize that you know the story behind that, mm-hmm, there's a story behind that.

Speaker 2: 17:56

So it was a low-budget movie and the costume designers were looking for something that would look futuristic and stupid, et cetera, and at that time Crocs weren't big. So he said, look, I got an idea for this company, let's just have them outfit everything Right. And he took it to the director and the director's, like you know, uh, I don't know that. You know, this thing could turn into something popular in the future. And then you know where are we going to be? And the costume designer was like there's no way. There's no way, it will never turn into anything popular. There's no way it will never turn into anything popular. These, there's no way. These are like plastic boat shoes, right and poof. Here we are, as I have crocs on my feet right now I, our girls got crocs.

Speaker 1: 18:37

I do not have crocs, I love them yeah, oh, dude, it's life-changing.

Speaker 2: 18:41

I know I hate it and I love it at the same time. It's life-changing.

Speaker 1: 18:44

I'll never wear them outside of the house, though I don't wear them outside of the house, though I don't wear them outside of the house, kind of like that whole pants thing you talked about. I don't wear pants.

Speaker 2: 18:51

I hate pants. Pants are the dumbest thing ever. I live in South Carolina, where you know our seasons are hot, warm and hurricane.

Speaker 1: 18:58

Okay, we don't have a winter.

Speaker 2: 19:00

My winter consists of I put a hoodie on, and that's about as extreme as it ever gets, but pants, no, no, talk to pants. Peasants.

Speaker 1: 19:10

Who wears pants For peasants. Pants are for peasants, that's like let's make the episode. Just got to remind you guys, any of you wearing pants grow up, grow up, peasants, evolve, evolve, please. It's time Get your Crocscs stop wearing pants. It's time to evolve and grow up sponsored by carl's jr yes, sponsored by by bojangles.

Speaker 1: 19:37

Yeah, come and get a hand job. So so very, very funny. Yeah, it's a funny world we're in right now, man. As much as I'd love it to be just a comedy element of idiocracy, there's a really sad element to it. It's really. It's a funny world we're in right now, man. As much as I'd love it to be just a comedy element of Idiocracy, there's a really sad element to it. It's tough. I'm going to Hero Stock, so this is recorded 9-11-24,. Ironically, I got the dad bod veteran on 9-11, which we won't get into, but hey, it's fitting.

Speaker 2: 20:03

Yeah, it's very ironic that we're doing this today.

Speaker 1: 20:06

Yeah, for those who served, but I'm actually I'm going to Hero Stock and so I've had Jason Steiner on the show, so we're going this weekend. It'd be like a. It used to be 22 a day, now it's at 44, um, and that's not including first responders, which we gotta do the shout out for uh, you can't find numbers for firefighters, can't find it, but we uh jason was just talking to people and he was like uh, there was even in this one community there's nine firefighters that uh unalived themselves in the last couple months, like the. Because you guys remember, these guys are also on a daily basis seeing people decapitated in cars and terrible things, watching children who burned in a building, and so they're seeing nightmares on a daily basis and who's there to help them. So I've been working with certain.

Speaker 1: 21:04

I've been helping police officers. There's a police station that wants to build a program for being able to help through grief. That doesn't make it so. There's a shame system around mental health, which is one of the bigger issues in the community right now, but 44 a day and we've got to make sure our veterans are learning how to do much better grieving and coping systems so that way they don't end up becoming another statistic. It's a sad thing that's happened right now. So shout out to all first responders and veterans, people out there who have served, and we're trying now to serve those who served. It's a scary world for our people. We love you know. Yeah, that's good stuff, so that's good stuff that you're helping out.

Speaker 2: 21:43

Yeah, it's awesome that's the all.

Speaker 1: 21:45

Right, now that we got the serious stuff, we'll be there for our guys, we will All right. So what's next for you, man? You've got tours coming up, you've got all kinds of things that are happening. What's the stuff? You're like, dude, I'm real excited.

Speaker 2: 21:56

Life is cool. I have no idea. I'm just kind of along for the ride and I say yes to everything.

Speaker 1: 22:02

Well, you're doing this comedy thing, right? I saw you doing stand-up. Yeah, I did stand-up for the first time.

Speaker 2: 22:07

That was really stressful and wild. Why? Because I'm actually a corporate guy.

Speaker 1: 22:14

What do you mean by that? You're a corporate guy.

Speaker 2: 22:16

I am actually a corporate guy by day. I do still have a corporate job and I have worked in the. As soon as I got out of the military, I know, went to school and got my degrees and I've been in the corporate world for 20 years now.

Speaker 2: 22:31

Um and I'd never thought that my world would take a path to where I'm doing standout comedy, not just once, but then on a tour. And the weird part is is we're we're skipping lines, like our group are for the Gen X group. We are skipping lines, you know, because people will work the comedy bit for years and you know open mics and things like that. We hit it once in Nashville, sold out two shows, and now we're going, and it was a smaller venue, but now we're going into a much larger venue in Cleveland and we're going to sell that out too, and then it's just going to snowball and snowball there. We've even got a cruise that will be announced here very soon. For November of next year we're going to do a takeover of the high seas, is what we're going to call it. And so this adventure of being a social media creator has taken me to places that I could have never imagined, even as a kid, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 23:23

Because as a kid you think I could do cool stuff. I could be a policeman, I could be a firefighter, I could be this, that and the other. You never think that after a career in the military and then a career in the corporate world, you're going to be doing stand-up comedy and touring the world to thousands of people, all because of the fact that you had a little bit too much time on your hand and a phone. I mean it's mind-boggling to me to think that this is a thing. I have a really good friend that I talk to. He lives in Maryland now and I call him every once in a while and he will just laugh at me because I'll update him and I'll just say, hey, this is what's going on. He just laughs at me. He said the world is so stupid because you get to do this. And it is, it's true. Because I mean we were. We were troublemakers when we were kids. We were not planning to do anything with our lives. I mean we were the idiots of the class. I think we co-signed each other's diploma, you know. I mean it's kind of we helped each other actually graduate. We marginally made passing grades at best. And and here I am, you know, having the opportunity to do this, uh, and, and being able to say yes to everything is really fun and really cool. So we are like we said, we're doing a tour. The Gen X Takeover Tour there will be has not been announced yet, but there will be several stops throughout the United States in 2025, including that cruise is going to take place in November and there's even discussions among the small group of going international with it, because we have some desire, especially over in the UK.

Speaker 2: 24:51

I have a very strong following in Australia. I don't know why I have a strong following in the international community. Maybe it's the accent that I put on, maybe the algorithm pushes it to them. I have the biggest international following of all the four of us, but we're looking at maybe getting outside and going beyond the borders of the US. So it's crazy. It's crazy Because I don't take this thing for granted, because it's not supposed to be my life. Let's say it that way. My life was supposed to be work in a corporate world, have a family, do my best and, you know, leave a legacy of some sort to my kids, and I'm doing something completely different than that. So I'm humbled and honored to be able to do it and I can't wait to see what happens next is really the real point.

Speaker 1: 25:41

Yeah, I tell people all the time God works. Weird man Like just stuff will start coming in opportunities. You're going to be like I don't, didn't see that coming.

Speaker 2: 25:49

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:50

It's a. It's a funny thing this I'm going to be a little psych on this one but it's funny when people get so caught up in uncertainty, like the anxiety it's like 50% are diagnosed with anxiety these days Like I just don't know, I just don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen. And I think they forget what you just said, where, on one hand, yeah, there's some bad things I guess that could happen, would probably be good but on the other hand, there's also stuff that's better than you've ever been exposed to also, and I think people forget, like you don't know how good it can be, because you just haven't seen that yet.

Speaker 1: 26:29

And that's also in the uncertainty part, too, is better than you've ever known, and so you're like I don't know where that's going.

Speaker 2: 26:34

It's like it's pretty awesome, that's where it's going. My ex-wife actually calls me all the time to get motivation to take risks because she said, you're just a risk taker. I said, well, I'm a calculated risk taker, but I will. Yes, I will take risks. Um, and she won't Right. And so she calls me to get, uh, some, some kind of bandwagon to help her take risks.

Speaker 2: 26:53

But in all reality, my personal opinion is is that you get one time on this world right and you don't know how many rotations around the air if you're going to get. Take every risk you can, if you think it's going to make your life a little bit better, because you don't know what's behind that curtain. You know what I mean. I tell that to my son. All the time he's in the Navy I was like dude, take every chance you can. If they offer you something, take it. You just don't know where it's going to leave. He's like, no, nobody wants to do that because it's Navy. Never again volunteer yourself. But that's where all the successes can come from is by stepping out of your comfort zone and taking a risk on something that you don't know what the outcome is going to be. That's, that's the only way you're going to get anything different in life is by taking a risk, because nobody's going to force you to do something different, or otherwise you're just going to sit there.

Speaker 1: 27:40

I think it's funny when people don't say out, don't say out loud the other side like, hey, can you motivate me and help me with the risk elements of things? And I go the other way because, yes, I can teach you this, but sell me the other version of what you're thinking of doing. Like, sell me the never try anything. Stay in my own little. Like, sell me the thing that you're doing and let's see if you can buy it yourself. Like, tell me how. I'm not going to go for it. I'm going to stay at home all day long. I'm not going to try and dream. I'm not going to try and be happy on something that would fulfill me. I'm not going to go for it. Like, sell it to me on what you're planning on doing.

Speaker 2: 28:18

Before I motivate you, how does that go, you know, like as soon as you try saying it out loud, it starts sounding stupider and stupider.

Speaker 1: 28:33

When I say it out loud, I'm like cool. So I think you just motivated yourself. Right, right, you don't have to sell that. You don't have to sell the risk. Yeah you, you realized your original plan before you called me is shit, and so you don't have to do that anymore now.

Speaker 2: 28:41

Now I will say there's a huge shift that happened when this all started, um, in my life. Right, because this didn't happen because of the fact that I wanted to make content. It happened for a very specific reason and there's a story. If you haven't, I've told the story a couple of times, but maybe you haven't heard the story, but basically I had my first child at the age of 18. So I've been a dad my whole life and between me and Mrs Dad bod, we have five kids total. Three of them are mine, two of her hers, and so my youngest was going to boot camp and he's been in for two years now and this was my last kid at home. And so when he he was planning to go in August, he got an offer to go earlier and they were going to give him a big old sign on bonus, whatever, and he took the offer and he ended up leaving like the next week after he graduated from high school, which was not part of the plan, right? I thought I was going to have more time.

Speaker 1: 29:38

We're going to hang out et cetera.

Speaker 2: 29:41

And I didn't know that empty nester syndrome was a little bit of a depressive state, that empty nester syndrome was a little bit of a depressive state, and so I went. I went bad. I mean, I went really bad because I literally lived my entire adult life as a dad, making all my risk decisions based on the benefit of my family, and now I'm in a situation where I have to do whatever I want to do, you know, for myself and for Mrs DBV, without having the kids to take care of and without them being the driver for how I decide. And it happened on accident.

Speaker 2: 30:18

The whole social media thing was I started creating content and some of it was ugly and then one day I said, well, why don't I think about what's next in life? And that was my grandchildren. And originally, if you know, like you said, your wife's been watching me for a while. If you go back to my really, really old content, it was all storytelling of the times before. It was like what was the world like before? You know today? Right, and that's where the times before came from.

Speaker 2: 30:48

And what that was was that was actually me telling stories to my grandkids with a fatherly voice, grandfatherly voice that I created that I would want to have stories told to me, and so that's where the voice actually came from. And then it you know it morphed into this reaction guy that he is right now, but it was never intentional for any of this to happen, but it was all based on the shift that was occurring in my life and the transition from being a dad to being, you know, somebody that looks after themselves and thinks about their grandkids which I still don't have grandkids, so I beat on my kids all the time about that.

Speaker 1: 31:26

But they'll work on it. They're practicing John, so they'll figure it out.

Speaker 2: 31:31

I have. We are putting statistical bets on which kid is the most probable and out of the five, the youngest is is probably the 95 percent probable, which is which? Is scary. I think we've got three that are just zero percent, so really we only have about a, you know one, two out of five shot, you made, you made smart ones, idiocracy man I know it's just never gonna be the right time. It's never gonna be the right time. It's not.

Speaker 1: 31:56

It's not right for me I love that this started off because of the concept of legacy, though we're like I'm gonna tell a story to my grandchildren about what it was like and like this is like the story of grandpa telling the story and very cool. That legacy became a part of what helped give you purpose and you know how. You took that into a, the imaginary realm, like a possible, like. Ah, for the future I'll make a video log for you guys make a video log, the.

Speaker 2: 32:26

The real reason is is that my father passed away when he was 39. He died of cancer that he got when he was in the military, and so I was at that time I was already past 40, right, and me and my brother always had this quiet, you know, competition of to see who was going to die first, and both of us are still here. So everything after 40 has been extra ending for me in my mental state, right, because I didn't think that I didn't know a world past that in my, you know, I had the opportunity that I was past that point and I never had videos of my dad telling me stories for my group, for my kids. So that's, that was where the you know, the logic was in my mind to do something different with the time that I had, which was a lot, to create these, these stories. So it it has a generational, you know, kind of influence on how we got to where we are today. You know kind of influence on how we got to where we are today.

Speaker 1: 33:21

But it all ties together in its perfect little cauldron to create what the heck this dad bought veteran is, which is evolving so fast, cause you went from like I'm going to tell stories to my grandkids to just making fun of funny things to now you're actually doing tours like an international comedy tour. That's crazy, yeah. What's next next? You mean movies?

Speaker 2: 33:40

yeah, I have no idea. I'm saying yes to everything. I'm saying yes to everything.

Speaker 1: 33:44

You just don't know where it's gonna go if I say no to something I'll feel like I robbed myself and I robbed everybody else yeah, that's, that's a good way to look at it too, and like it's kind of weird how stuff evolves very fast, like very fast. And one thing too, it's uh, it's funny. You say you lived in this place, this corporate world that was so limiting. Like you can only dream this big, you can only dream inside these parameters. And then once you start just going like I think I'm gonna remove the blinders that you guys put on, that's like that's how big you're allowed to believe, and now how much opportunity is out there now that you have these blinders removed?

Speaker 2: 34:22

oh, it's crazy. I can't even fathom the edges of this thing. I really can't when I tell people that isn't?

Speaker 1: 34:29

it's so weird because right now the world is so hell-bent on limiting potential and limiting beliefs that once you remove that blinder, like I tell people, I talk to people and I'm like dude, there's opportunity fucking everywhere. It's everywhere. There's too much even to conceive. Like, I can see so many opportunities. And they're like yeah, but the way that I've always done it was this way. I'm like, yeah, but that one's done. Like, but if you remove that, they take the blinders off, there's 10,000 things. And if you remove that, they take the blinders off, there's 10 000 things. And if you want to know what you can do next, what? What do you hate the most right now? Oh, they're like oh, I fucking hate this. I'm like then fix that.

Speaker 1: 35:09

And now you make a new opportunity correct that's everywhere as much as you could complain, then do a thing that fixes it. Now you provide a service that other people are complaining about too. That is now now solved. There's your million dollars.

Speaker 2: 35:22

Go get it. Yep, and you know, one of my biggest fears when it comes to that corporate world was I was afraid that they were going to find out and I was afraid that they weren't going to like it and they were going to fire me. But there was a point in which I just said you know what? I only get one life and I'm already an extra inning, so who cares? Right, let's just, let's just go for it extra innings.

Speaker 2: 35:43

As soon as I started that, my boss became one of my biggest fans get out. And when nascar nascar invited me out to nashville, uh, to go to the race and do content there, um, I called him. I said, hey, man, you want to go to nashville, nashville? And he was like hell, yeah, and he was my. You know, he was my second. I kind of let him be my entourage, if you will, where we're at the NASCAR race, in the pit crew, and he knows so much about NASCAR which was crazy A lot more than I did. His dad was on a pit crew or something back in the eighties and, uh, we had a great time and we really had a great time. And now it's like he's like hey, man, I just hope you don't quit, whereas before I was like he's gonna fire me yeah he's like no, I hope you don't quit, man, I just want to keep you as long as I can.

Speaker 2: 36:27

And it's really we are so constrained by our own fears, correct? We really are that don't exist every human? Yeah, that don't exist. None of them have materialized. It's just fear, yeah, until it materializes, it's then you know tragedy and you have to deal with it. But before that time it's just, it's just a barrier to anything well, even tragedy is debatable, right right. Tragedy is also.

Speaker 1: 36:52

You know it's emotionally influenced yeah, it's either a tragedy or it just happened. Yeah, like that happened and it's going to happen. That happened, it's going to happen.

Speaker 2: 37:04

We're all going to check out of here. At some point it's going to happen. It's sad for the people that are left behind us, but you know it's going to happen.

Speaker 1: 37:11

Yeah, well, I mean, this is why I train grief so hard is because, like that stuff is, like that happened, man, and you get so caught up in the woods and coulds and shoulds of of the either bargaining or fear, or we get into all the things like, oh no, no, no, or I wish, I wish, I wish, and you're like you're. You're not present. Are you which make believe our abstract world? Are you in right now, which is a superpower? By the way, it's awesome that you can go into possible futures, protective states, yeah, and have an entire experience in an imaginary world. That's pretty fucking amazing. You have a superpower.

Speaker 1: 37:51

Also, part of the cure to anxiety is recognizing you're not broken. You're brilliant. You are creating abstract universes and bringing your emotions with you. Yeah, that's incredible. That's a superpower. You're like time traveling dude. That's amazing. And so being it's pretty. Whenever I do anxiety training, it's pretty amazing how quickly, if you just change the belief systems around that, that you go like you're fighting nothing because fear isn't real, like there's nothing there. And if you have presence in the present and I was like John, listen, I'm just going to tell you I'm freaked out. Man, lions, dude, if a fucking lion was in here like I can't fight a lion, like I'm like fuck dude, I'm fucking freaking out right now the lions, and you're like dude, there's no lines.

Speaker 2: 38:44

You're like I think fear is perceived.

Speaker 1: 38:45

In my opinion, fear is a perceived emotional response to the undesirable possibility and I think that that doesn't exist.

Speaker 2: 38:48

Right, I think. But if you can shift that from being an undesirable possibility to a desirable possibility, you lose the fear.

Speaker 1: 38:57

It can. The other version this is this is an interesting psych thing there a whenever I do um training for grieving, the bargaining system, I've linked to fear as like the enemy within um. So bargaining, you know, comes into the element of the possible futures that we would love to have. Like if you know someone did pass, let's say like you passed away and I'm like God, I would give anything to talk to John one more time. You know like an unrealistic possibility, you know, but it's in a fantasy. It would be in a positive thing. You know also, the rose colored glasses people will do is also a form of bargaining. Or it gets into people pleasing and trying to sacrifice yourself to make it so that if I just give this then I can have that, and if I just gave that then I could have that. And it gets into all of the bargaining element of the grieving system, which is fantasy for good.

Speaker 1: 39:49

Now the reason I put fear and bargaining together is it's on the same scale, it's just opposite ends, and so fear is I'm really scared of what possibly could happen and that makes me feel bad. But then how do you feel when the fear doesn't happen? I feel relieved, I feel good. Oh, I was so worried, but now I'm good because it's not real. Well, bargaining is wouldn't it be so wonderful if we could have this perfect relationship, or we could have this perfect life, or this perfect thing could happen? And then that doesn't happen.

Speaker 1: 40:24

Well, how does it feel when the perfect thing doesn't happen? Well, that feels very bad, and so that's why they're opposite is fear is make believe I don't want to happen, and then I'm relieved when it doesn't. And bargaining is make believe I really want to happen, and then I'm really bummed out when it doesn't happen, which creates a second grief inside the grief. So now you have to grieve twice, which is why bargaining is such a tricky one, because it seems like it's wonderful until it doesn't come true, and then you're like that's depressing twice, you know, and so it gets tricky on that one. So it's funny how often I catch people in abstract thinking of make believe and then trying to base their life around that. And so they're impossible futures or false realities. And it's interesting because how many minutes of the present get wasted on time that isn't happening.

Speaker 2: 41:10

No, I'll be honest with you, I'm. I waste a lot of time on it. Yeah, I'm a dreamer. I'm a really a dream, a dreamer. I play the lottery. I've been playing the same numbers for like 15 years. I know it's impossible. Maybe I'll leave the legacy behind that my kids don't have to play the lottery because I'll watch this.

Speaker 1: 41:27

My dad's, their dad's done it, and you so what are you gonna do with your lottery winnings if you're in these possible futures? Which is? This is a thin line for bargaining between manifestation and make believe. Itieve, it's a thin line. It's a razor line. Am I manifesting or is that really possible? So there's a thin line. So, all right, you won the lottery and you won $400 million. Congratulations, john. You won the lottery. After taxes, you got $100. So what are you going to do with all this winnings?

Speaker 2: 41:57

There are so many different scenarios that have played in my head, so many different. It's, there's not. This is probably why the fates won't let me win. It's because I can't nail down one scenario on exactly how it's going to unfold, because it changes. I mean, it's changed since I started doing this. It's really changed from I just want to, like, buy an island and be, you know, uh, far away from everybody, to I want to, you know, set up this trust fund to my legacy of families. We'll never have to worry about money. You know, there's, there's just different scenarios that have always played true, and that's probably why I'm not going to be able to win.

Speaker 1: 42:33

So like make up your mind for which dream we're manifesting.

Speaker 2: 42:38

I have the answers. They're just. It's going to depend on exactly what day, how hard the wind is blowing and what direction it's coming from. I like that.

Speaker 1: 42:47

Makes a little more sense. Yeah, listen, if the fates decide, I'll let the fates decide.

Speaker 2: 42:53

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 42:53

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 42:54

I trust the fates. They know what they're doing.

Speaker 1: 42:56

I'm pretty sure it's a hair away, who knows? Yeah, so it's funny. Yeah, it's. It's interesting that some of the things for like but this is the ironic thing about when the lottery and some, I think there's a degree of the manifestation part does exist. Whatever you think about the most you become, you know, whatever it is you focus on, you're going to find, you know, and if you do believe, like I think it's this way and I want this thing, I want this thing and you keep putting it out there, You'll move toward that thing. There's a thing.

Speaker 1: 43:24

So right now you're rolling with like let's just let God drive, and then we're going to go that direction. And wherever it says like hey, GPS says like, don't do the turn, You're like start it off with like I don't know what to do with my time. I'm kind of bummed out. I'm a little sad. Right now let's do something to share something with the grandkids, and that's turned into you're going on a tour and then you're going to create another thing that you made while on the tour, Like here's what I learned on tour, so here's my first book. And now you're doing another tour and then you're going to do this other thing. That's going to be like hey, this is a really fun thing too. And now you're doing a concert and you're opening for somebody. You're like what the hell like?

Speaker 2: 44:01

life gets weird man if you just it does get weird, it does get weird. I can and I can totally see that be a possible path, but I'm just gonna ride it until, yeah, I mean it's gonna end like I said. It's gonna end. We either I'm gonna get uh old and crusty and not be funny anymore, or uh, I'm, you know, we're gonna lose our relevancy as gen xers and we're not gonna be able to play that card there won't be any more gen.

Speaker 2: 44:23

Xers, that's over. There won't be gen that's. That is definitely a possibility. Um, the fact that we're still here today is really, uh, speaks volumes. I don't know if that says that the ones that are here today are the ones that didn't take risks, or if we're just that tough one of the two, because we all should not be here, cockroaches, we should, it's hard to kill it's hard to kill the nuclear winner. Yeah, yeah because our I mean we're the reason that warning labels exist.

Speaker 1: 44:56

Kids don't understand that that warning labels exist.

Speaker 2: 45:00

You don't understand that that warning labels came because some Gen Xer ate it off my buddy John is the reason why that label exists.

Speaker 1: 45:08

You don't put those in your mouth, exactly.

Speaker 2: 45:10

Exactly the poison control that came about because of a Gen Xer.

Speaker 1: 45:14

Okay, yeah, we're, we're strong learners. We're, you know we we, we have a lot of tribal knowledge.

Speaker 2: 45:22

Uh, that has now been turning into warning labels, yep that's good tribal knowledge.

Speaker 1: 45:28

Yeah, it's, it's true, though it's very funny, we're. We're in a funny state too. It's funny to watch. Now it's turning into um these instruction videos that you're seeing now, which scare the shit out of people. You don't actually have to know anything to make an instruction video, which I really enjoy.

Speaker 2: 45:44

You're seeing them, yeah, and you know what. There's so much opportunity for people to make instruction videos.

Speaker 1: 45:50

That's the scary part, just have to be a little confident in what you say.

Speaker 2: 45:54

Yeah, as long as you can convince someone through a lens that you know what you're talking about, you actually don't have to be qualified, uh, to do that anymore. Where, before you know, we would all seek the great sage wisdom of either the encyclopedia or, uh, mom and dad, the other answers of the world which we did.

Speaker 1: 46:13

We never checked their qualifications.

Speaker 2: 46:14

We never checked their qualifications. Honestly. They were probably blowing smoke up our butts as well, oh, they were, they absolutely were, yes. Yeah, Now being where I am in life, I've realized that they didn't know what the hell they were talking about.

Speaker 1: 46:25

No, they still don't.

Speaker 2: 46:27

Yeah, yeah. They had no idea. And here I am doing the same thing. I'm honest enough to my kids to tell them that I'm probably blowing smoke up their butt.

Speaker 1: 46:39

Yeah, I find a lot of confidence in just being open when I don't have a clue what you're talking about. But I want to learn though there's a lot of confidence in. I don't know these days Like I teach True.

Speaker 2: 46:49

I'm like it's confident.

Speaker 1: 46:51

I tell people. I'm like tell me something. You know, there's no damn way I know what that is Like something that's so niche in your life. You know cause people get so caught up in feeling inadequate, not good enough, I'm just going to be judged or I'm going to be embarrassed Cause I'm going to be like, oh, do you know? And be like I. I I'm like no, I'll just just ask me anything. They're like okay, well, what is the circumference of the gear that goes onto this kind of a thing? And I'm like I have no idea, dude, what is it? And they're like oh, it's actually a 12.3 centimeters, and that's what it is. I'm like cool, thanks, how do you use it? Oh, you do it like this. And I'm like how do you feel? Like I feel pretty good.

Speaker 2: 47:36

I got to share that with you.

Speaker 1: 47:38

I'm like I do it with my kids all the time. I'm like they're like, oh, this thing happened. I'm like, no way, show me what it is. I have no idea what you're talking about, and it makes them now eager to share versus going. I know everything, which I feel like I'm pretty smart, and so it's one of those things where I feel like I'm in a Mark Twain phase with my kids, which is like when I was 14, my dad was an idiot. He didn't know shit, he was foolish and made stupid choices, and then, by the time I got to 21, I was amazed at how much he's learned in seven years.

Speaker 1: 48:12

Yep, and you're like, no, it was you who grew so. At this point I'm actually waiting, because our stuff is like kind of like where you're at, where it's just blowing up right now. Um, our oldest daughter just went to college and she doesn't she doesn't really listen to any of the things that we create and, uh, it's going to be one of those things where she's like her friend or somebody's gonna make dude. I've been listening to this show. I've been listening this guy, this awesome she can make, that's my fucking stepdad man. You're like, no, it's not Shut up, this guy's fucking great.

Speaker 2: 48:44

And the time that you know that it's there is when somebody sends you or somebody sends her your stuff. It happens that happened to me when Max, my youngest. He was on a carrier for a little while and his supervisor sent him a video and said man, you got to watch this, this is funny. And he goes that's my dad.

Speaker 1: 49:10

Yeah, and the guy was like shut up.

Speaker 2: 49:13

That is not your dad. He's like yeah, that's really my dad. And so he's like there's no fucking way. So he called me, facetimed me I'm sitting right there, facetimed me and I was like hey, what's up? He was like hey, dad, just show them. And he just showed them and they're like and that's the weirdest thing in the world to me. That's so weird that this is again full circle. Going back to the fact that an idiot with a phone and too much time on his hands can cause that type of ripple effect in the world. I mean where people are like starstruck by you when you meet them in person, and I'm more starstruck by them seeing me as starstruck than they are, because that's just so. I'm not that guy.

Speaker 1: 49:59

It doesn't make sense. Yeah, guy, it doesn't make sense. Yeah, like, I guess again, like this is when, like there's things you really like to do or there's things you really do, and and it's weird when people we've seen people all over the country who are like your video actually got me out of some shit, and I was like, oh nice to meet you, you know that kind of thing, yeah, and I've been stopped in stores and all kinds of shit. You, you're like what the fuck? That's kind of crazy. I had a guy I was talking to because he was in deep isolation and working through some tough things. And I'm talking with him and he's like, listen, man, I already know that you're good. I don't need the celebrity to call me to tell me how to get the program. And I was like what celebrity are you talking about? The show is the hobby. I really do deep work.

Speaker 1: 50:46

I really do this job man, and so it was funny. When he goes, this celebrity doesn't have to come and tell me to get the products that's crazy, that's funny dude the celebrity. I was like no, I just took a shit today, right, you know what are you talking about you?

Speaker 2: 51:03

watch me put my pants on. It was one leg at a time, just like you.

Speaker 1: 51:06

Yeah, and I hate pants.

Speaker 2: 51:08

And I hate pants.

Speaker 1: 51:11

It's a funny way, and we're at the beginning of this thing too. I'm like you know, I'm still at the very beginning of this journey, where I see where it's going to go next, because I still have multiple milestones in my heart. I still have to do for this job. I have an impossible task and you've got this huge journey that you're on where, like, I'm going to ride, where this, this roller coaster goes, and there's a lot more track.

Speaker 2: 51:32

Yeah, this is a cool ride.

Speaker 1: 51:34

And while that's a thing and I don't want to go too far into like the look at, look at us thing I actually want to really kind of praise you on the concept. You may I don't know if it was deliberate or you stumbled upon it brilliantly, but this concept of extra innings you keep bringing up is really intelligent. Like I don't know if that's a like you're like accidentally did it, but the concept of it's always been a concept of extra innings. I think it was.

Speaker 2: 52:00

Maybe it was because of the fact that we were exposed to death so early.

Speaker 2: 52:03

You know, because our dad died when we were 17 or when I was 17,. My brother was 20 at the time and my sister was 15 and uh, and it was pretty rough. It was pretty rough for a while. I was not the best kid after that, um, but then my, uh, my mother passed when she was 59. So, anyway, now my brother's like I gotta make it at least halfway through the two right Between 39 and 59. Sure, he's like 50s feels like his magic number and I go. No, I'm actually at the point where I want to beat mom. Right, I want to go past mom 59.

Speaker 2: 52:36

And we were exposed to death so young and we had that so ticked in our brains that 39 was the magic number that we really both were probably more surprised when we actually hit 40 than anything because of the fact that we did, because we just never saw a world past that, yeah, and so it really does feel like extra innings. It really does. I've had more time with my kids than what I thought I deserved because my dad was our, you know, we. He kind of got bronzed after he passed away. In our eyes he was the best thing since sliced bread and there was nobody that could touch him, and and so it really is. It's just that, it's just like I'm here today and I'm glad to be here today, and if I get to be here tomorrow, that's another inning and and that's where we're at, and I know that there's a point that we all, uh, become familiar with death.

Speaker 2: 53:26

There's always a point in their lives and I actually make a joke about it in my comedy bit, but it's true so at some point in life we become very aware of death. Before that moment, we think we're invincible and we're never going to die, and it's it's that point that we become familiar with death, that we either have a choice. We could either dread it and be scared of it and and think that we can somehow avoid it, or we can say, okay, that's going to happen. I don't know when, and let me just enjoy the innings I have, yeah, and I've kind of decided to go that route with it.

Speaker 1: 53:58

There's a stoic route, you know, and they that was. A stoic thing is every day is a gift and so, like they assume that when you lay your head down that this is your last day, so live your day, like this is the last day you're going to live and if you wake up in the morning, that's a new gift. You've been gifted another day, an extra ending. It's a really brilliant concept and the way you simplify it's been around for thousands of years and it really makes it so. The fear of risk, the fear of doubt, the fear of all of these like well, what if that goes wrong? If whatever goes right, I mean extra endings anyways. It removes a lot of the um, the make-believes that would stop you because you're like everything's bonus right now, man, so like I don't have to worry about, like, oh, the big game. I'm, like I'm already in bonus, so everything's just a w at this point. And that puts you present, it puts you free from control issues, it's making it so I don't have to be so like everything's gotta be my way. It's like we're already past my way. We made it way longer than we thought. We're winning already.

Speaker 1: 54:59

So look at how much, and I found this too the same thing you're finding is, once you release the control over everything and just embrace the present of like I'm an extra ending, just love the minute. You know, that's my definition of happiness. Stuff that I teach is like embrace, like the blips of the time. You're in this very second. You're in very beautiful moments all the time. But if you're trying to control or you're scared of or you're stuck in the past or you're not here, you're missing that. You're in extra endings of just beautiful blips all around you with the people, places, things or stuff you're doing. And if you're not here, I don't know where you are, but you're missing all of the cool stuff in these extra endings. I don't know where you're at, but you're missing the good stuff right now.

Speaker 2: 55:44

And here's the crazy part as soon as you're born, you're in extra innings really, we really are.

Speaker 1: 55:50

That's crazy. We don't really understand it until you start hitting this 40 range and then you're like wait a second.

Speaker 2: 55:57

Then you're like death is a thing, that's like a thing and I can't run away from it and I also don't control any of this shit that I'm trying to control exactly, I have no control over it so I'm just gonna control how I handle it yeah yeah, I just hope that it's not like a painful way. I want to be a lights out kind of guy, you know yeah I feel like.

Speaker 1: 56:17

I feel like, if we live this style of life, it's going to be a very instant thing. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping. It's going to be like he died in a tragic skydiving accident. You, you know that was fast.

Speaker 2: 56:26

That will not happen, right.

Speaker 1: 56:30

Two rules in life.

Speaker 2: 56:31

Two rules in life Never jump out of a perfectly good airplane and never go on a ship that sinks on purpose.

Speaker 1: 56:36

Everything else is on the table Sinks on purpose. Is that a submarine or something?

Speaker 2: 56:40

Yes, and one of our kids is a submariner. He's not listening to rule number two.

Speaker 1: 56:49

There's two rules.

Speaker 2: 56:51

How are you breaking?

Speaker 1: 56:51

the second rule.

Speaker 2: 56:53

Everything else is on the table.

Speaker 1: 56:57

It's a it's. It's a pretty amazing thing. That's why I wanted to kind of praise you a little bit, cause, whether it's it's deliberate or you've stumbled upon it like accidentally, it is a brilliant terminology to say I'm an extra, extra inning, so let's just embrace the shit out of it, let's just roll with it, instead of the uh, the fear and the controls and the depression and the things that people are doing right now for the self, the self-destructive, the sabotaging, the doubts, the addictions that are out there, the stuff that's going crazy seems to just not be able to catch the blips that we're in right now. The, the present of like you're in extra innings, dude, just roll with it.

Speaker 2: 57:34

Yeah, and it's not. I don't know that many people that have been able to do it. I honestly don't know that many people that have been able to do it. Like, my brother struggles. He's a little bit older. He struggles with, uh, you know, depression and anxiety and things of that nature. He's he's trying to start a brewery right now and there's all these things that are not going to plan, etc. And uh, I, I don't know why I can do it, um, but I can do it for now uh, and hopefully I can keep doing it until I hit my end of the road it's a thing that's.

Speaker 1: 58:03

It's actually probably more spirit and heart side is where it runs into when you start embracing, like the death element of it You've embraced. Like this is going to happen and so I'm no longer trying to be in control, mind and body. The concept of surrender is very bad. Like I'm never quitting, I'm always going to fight, I'll never give up. Don't surrender that's a terrible term. I'm never going to do that. I'll fight till I fucking last breath. Fuck that's. I'm never going to do that. I'll fight till I fucking last breath. Fuck you. You know, never, never control me, right, but on your, your spirit and heart side, that's surrender makes you much stronger. Like I don't control these things. My purpose will find myself. I'll find my purpose Once I find my authenticity and I just surrender to who I am.

Speaker 1: 58:43

Instead of conformed to what you say, I need to be uh side of things, of being able to just like fall in love. You know I listened to the Alan Watts conversations of like the concept of the fall. You don't say I'm trying to force in love with this girl right now. I'm going to really force the love here. You're like you don't force in love, you don't make someone love you, surrender to it, you fall in love, and so heart and spirit side is let go. And then you become so strong and once you've gotten past that point of like this is when I was supposed to ascend. I'm supposed to be dead already, like I'm supposed to be gone, and so I just let go. I don't have anything to hold onto. I win, like I'm just, I'm just in the moments now.

Speaker 2: 59:23

Yeah, I look at it this way. If the book was written about my life from today backwards, I had a good book. I had a good book. I got to be a dad, I got to be a Navy guy and I got to see some stuff, and then I got to be a college guy and then I got to be a corporate guy and then I got to be a funny guy. And if you ended the book today, I'd be okay. It would still be a good book Not as long as I wanted it to be, but it would still be a good book.

Speaker 1: 59:51

It depends on how you tell the stories, because some people can drag a story. Oh my God, yeah Some people can't.

Speaker 2: 59:59

I'm one of them.

Speaker 1: 1:00:00

It's like this is a really big book.

Speaker 2: 1:00:03

I'm one of them. It's hard to condense some of these things down into a one minute video. Sometimes I really want to go.

Speaker 1: 1:00:09

Oh God, am I with you on this. My babe will jump in and she's going to ask me some concept that I just did a two hour training on and she's like three minutes and I'm like I just did two hours on this. You want three?

Speaker 2: 1:00:22

minute version intro Shit.

Speaker 1: 1:00:25

Yeah, no, I, I like the idea of this and this and like, um, it's almost kind of like too, like the book is actually still going because you have just cool chapters, but these chapters are so different, they're freeing, right, and I wish that, like what you're saying about. When I discovered this too I discovered this when I balanced out my stuff within the last two years I was like I really surrendered to this element of like just be man and let it go with what's supposed to go with, and you don't control all of that. And and the radical acceptance of things, uh, which really makes it so people can be like, more truthful with you, more safe with you, um, they, they're asking you can you teach me how to take more risk? And you're like there is no risk, you just go like it doesn't? You're scared of a thing that doesn't exist. But then you got to weigh out, like you're going for like what?

Speaker 1: 1:01:09

Nothing versus a potential something. But when you see the choice, do you want absolutely nothing or do you want the possibility for something? Which one do you want?

Speaker 2: 1:01:22

And you're like, well, I want the something I'm like well then decline the nothing and then go take away the nothing as an option?

Speaker 1: 1:01:25

Yeah, there's well, there's nothing if you don't do nothing, but you can do something. And then what happens if you don't get it but you go for something?

Speaker 2: 1:01:33

You might find something else. That's the other part, right, it's just because you don't hit the ideal end state. There could be somewhere else along the lines that goes in a completely left direction that you didn't even see.

Speaker 1: 1:01:44

And that's the uncertainty people are scared of also has that answer.

Speaker 2: 1:01:49

It has that answer awesome yeah, because you should, because because you said yes to something, it may turn into something that you didn't know was even possible that's out.

Speaker 1: 1:01:58

There too, guys.

Speaker 2: 1:02:00

We have anxiety when it's also the greatest thing you've never known is still in that same window too yeah, like I said yes to this standup comedy thing, I was so anxious about it I mean it really was getting up in front of a bunch of people and doing it. I practice in the living room with the missus, for you know, doing my set and stand up and set up, cause I'm not a comedian. I'm not a comedian, if you ask me, as a child or as an adult. I'm not a comedian.

Speaker 2: 1:02:24

But I am now somehow I earned the title because I did it, and now I'm going to do it more, but it was because I said yes and then the opportunity turned into this yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:02:34

Fear, fear hates courage, fear hates courage. And for you to go, yes, scares the shit out of me. Yes, it's scary. Fear hates courage.

Speaker 2: 1:02:47

God, it scares me.

Speaker 1: 1:02:49

I'm still not jumping out of an airplane, yeah well, I think it's a thin line between courage and that's I think that's the definition where they say, to have courage is to know that something may hurt you and still do it anyways. And stupidity has the same definition, which is why life is hard yeah, yeah, you gotta gotta moderate, gotta make sure you're like is it? Is it? Hold my Red Bull or hold my beer? I don't know which one I'm doing right now.

Speaker 2: 1:03:16

My hold, my beer days are over.

Speaker 1: 1:03:18

Yeah. So I don't know if this is courage or stupid. I can't tell.

Speaker 2: 1:03:22

Yeah, the only thing that I would say about this getting older and being in extra innings that sucks is the body. Yeah, that's the other unfortunate reality is that the body is going to break down in the most horrific ways that you never thought were possible.

Speaker 1: 1:03:38

What's some of your worst ones.

Speaker 2: 1:03:42

What's some of the like it's embarrassing, this is happening ones. I crapped my pants for the first time, probably like six months ago.

Speaker 1: 1:03:47

Outstanding In an unplanned fashion. Yeah, Surprise.

Speaker 2: 1:03:52

I realized that, see, I'm a tea drinker now because the coffee didn't sit well with my tummy, yeah, and it gave me the shakes and stuff like that. And so we were in Atlanta. We were in Atlanta, we were going to go to the Legoland and the missus decided there was a cafe intermezzo there, which I don't know if you've ever been to one of those those are great places, by the way. No, they've got really pretty uh with the swirlies and the hearts and all that crap and the cappuccino. So I was like I'm just gonna get one.

Speaker 2: 1:04:19

Hadn't had coffee in six months, okay, hadn't had coffee in six months. And I decided I'm gonna get a cappuccino. I thought everything was going to be fine. I was like my tongues are a little rumbly, but everything's going to be good. Don't ever trust that, ever again. That's where we're at in life that our valves and our and our and our O rings are not the same, that they can't hold back the tides Like we thought we could. And we're in Atlanta traffic on the way to Lego land, that the dam was going to break.

Speaker 2: 1:04:45

Oh no, she's in the car. We got the kid in the back seat and I just yeah, yeah and there's nothing. You, I mean, what do you do at that point? We all just it just got. This is the bigger problem as to why this was so uncomfortable, Because, instead of addressing the elephant in the room, it just got silent.

Speaker 1: 1:05:05

Nobody said anything for the next 20 minutes oh, is it 20 minutes of sitting in shit?

Speaker 2: 1:05:10

yeah, we all just kind of stared. There I'm holding the steering wheel, nobody's saying a word and they're looking around.

Speaker 1: 1:05:17

Are we by a farm? Like is there? Is there somebody putting putting out some manure and why do I not see a farm?

Speaker 2: 1:05:26

yeah. So so they? No, they knew, they didn't. They knew because we were having a conversation. I was like, uh, I gotta, I gotta pull over, I can't, I just. And then yep so that's that's, that's my worst one.

Speaker 1: 1:05:39

So far that one's. That was pretty outstanding. Well, done.

Speaker 2: 1:05:42

Yeah, yeah, and I'm gonna actually incorporate that into my comedy here soon that's pretty good.

Speaker 1: 1:05:46

yeah, I was. Yeah, I shit myself in traffic, yeah, because shitting yourself is is always hilarious.

Speaker 1: 1:05:51

Anything that has to do with farts and butts and colonoscopies is hilarious when you said like you know, as a man, we don't really mature after 12 years old. Yeah, farts and poop jokes are still funny as shit. In this case wasn't that solid, but it still still counts. Never, ever get away with it, there's. It's funny. I had a buddy about explaining like some of the tea stuff too. Like, yeah, he had a person who was like some colon blow tea or something he's like oh yeah he can't be that strong.

Speaker 1: 1:06:20

And he said he was downstairs in the basement and his bathroom is right at the top of the stairs like it's stairs bathroom and he's down there changing the laundry. He's like, oh no. And so he started going to run up the stairs and as he was there, he's like I'm not kidding dude, I was on the last step and just shit my pants, like a fucking grenade went off in my pants. And he's like I was right in the bathroom. I was in the bathroom with a shit grenade in my fucking pants. He was like I almost made it and it's just one of those. Things are getting older. You're like dude, it's still a good story.

Speaker 2: 1:06:53

It's like it's an exorcism of the bowels. I mean, they do not mess with teas. Okay, you guys think coffee's rough. You get the right combination of teas and it will do things to you. Things, lots of things. You could stay up for a week, you could sleep for a week. You could basically be in a point where you can't leave the bathroom and I have those teas. I know exactly what he's talking about and, yeah, it's. I mean it's. If you need to clean it out, I mean it'll work, but be prepared, you ain't doing anything else that day. Yeah, yeah, you're going to be dedicated.

Speaker 1: 1:07:31

Yeah, you're, this is a commitment. Yeah, I got, I got some silly ones, man, like I still I still do my workouts. But I remember I was doing a workout like it was it was probably last year and I was doing some squats and I'm feeling good. I got some good lifts going a little heavy and I'm like good, good, good. And then I was just like stretching. So I was like touching my toes, like just stretch, just like touching my toes, like just stretch, just touch your toes and just pop something right there now, like oh and just I was on my knees, just fucked. I'm like, oh, my god, no, did you get hurt working out? I was like I wish I could say I was working out, I was only stretching, like I got I did a squat, I was doing good, but it was this, it's the touch your toes that destroyed me.

Speaker 2: 1:08:06

I was fucked for like a week from stretch I mean, at least it didn't happen while you sneezed.

Speaker 1: 1:08:14

I mean, that's embarrassing well, I mean, I hear that's a thing you get hurt sneezing yeah, or like how funny is it when you you wake up and you're like I think I slept wrong I did a whole video video on.

Speaker 2: 1:08:27

That was when I woke up and did not. I thought my arm was not coming back. I guess I slept on it wrong and it went into a coma. My arm went into a coma. My body woke up and it was 10 minutes after and I'm walking around like Bob Dole just stuck a pen in my hand walking around like Bob Dole like I don't think it's coming back.

Speaker 1: 1:08:52

We're just going to do this forever because I'm not cutting it off. It took like 10 minutes literally. You got an entire.

Speaker 2: 1:08:55

You got an entire insidious episode where you find out your arm is really a dream walker and it can like the astral projection it's like doing, it's like thing in, like the astral plane just running around on its hands either, and then it comes back from like the the hand on evil dead and starts attacking me yeah, idle hands, you're like oh god, yeah, I understand that, and that's what happens when you sleep wrong.

Speaker 1: 1:09:17

I'm like I'm gonna do this. I'm in my 40s. I've been sleeping pretty much every day. You'd think I'd have this down by now.

Speaker 2: 1:09:27

No, no, no, because your body's deteriorating and it's doing things and it's changing and it's evolving into a, basically a corpse, and along the path it's going to do things for the living part of you that it doesn't understand. That's what we're going through. I'm evolving into corpse.

Speaker 2: 1:09:46

You're evolving into a corpse. Your body, your mind is alive, very much alive, in fact. My mind is just as sharp as it's ever been. Of course, that's going to decline again too, but our body is evolving into a corpse slowly, and we're experiencing that in real time. And this is what's happening. We're sneezing and throwing things out, we're stretching and throwing you know tearing things, and we're shitting ourselves in inappropriate times. It's going to get worse.

Speaker 1: 1:10:13

Yeah, and these are the blips. These are the beautiful moments. These are the moments that we should celebrate. Extra innings.

Speaker 2: 1:10:19

If we think about it. If we think about it, they're like little birthdays towards our corpse birth.

Speaker 1: 1:10:30

Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:10:32

Let me think about it. Yeah, they're little birthdays, little moments. They're the little little, the little precious moments that our body is having towards its birthday of dying.

Speaker 1: 1:10:37

Just to remind you that, like, just in case you were feeling confident about, like, some of the things coming up, we're going to have you shit your pants.

Speaker 2: 1:10:46

It's going to be. It's going to be a bit, it's going to be a bit. That and the fact that my arm is no longer long enough for me to read my phone. I have to have oh, the glasses.

Speaker 1: 1:10:57

Yeah, yeah, that's the other one. My baby does that. I laugh at her because she's nearsighted or farsighted, and so she's got to do this, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:11:12

Well, your arm is only so long. Eventually it's not long enough anymore and you have to change things because the text only gets so big on these things. So we have to change, and we have to change because the eyes they're dying to. It's so much fun, it's enjoyable Extra innings man Extra innings kids Extra innings, kids, sign yourself up. Just can't wait.

Speaker 1: 1:11:32

Yeah, it's an interesting game. At this point I am going to say, though 40s are fucking great. They are cool. 40s are cool. Listen the way you're speaking. Are you past 40s? You look young.

Speaker 2: 1:11:45

No, I'm only 45. Okay, I'm going to say, but I make jokes about it. I make jokes about it. That's what I do. And it's funny when I make jokes about it because the people that are in their 50s and 60s they remind me in the comments. You know, strap in little guy Strap in.

Speaker 1: 1:11:59

Yeah, I got 43 coming up and I'm like so far, so good. It's pretty fucking great. You haven't even hit the deep water yet. Okay, oh yeah, In the next couple of years is the deep water?

Speaker 2: 1:12:09

Yeah Well, I'm talking about the 50 and 60. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what they're telling me they're like look, you're in a good time there, sunshine. Okay, real talk. Heavy seas are coming.

Speaker 1: 1:12:17

I've seen people, man, and we saw, we saw one of those guys, probably in the 60s, having a very real life moment where we saw him on the side of the road, other side of the road, and we saw him getting out of the car, just obviously fucking frustrated. And then you saw him go around the side and just have to just drop and he's immediately shitting on the side of the road and you're like that guy's having one of those exact moments, right, and you can just tell he's like I'm a grown-ass man shitting on the side of the road and it's obvious this wasn't like probably a good idea. It is, I have to do this immediately. There is the O-rings are blown, I have to go now, and you could see it was just a shame, shit right there Again.

Speaker 2: 1:13:08

I would just stay in the car and let it happen. I'm not sharing it with the public like that. Okay, there was two people in the car that shared it with me, but that's the extent of my sharing.

Speaker 1: 1:13:18

You're far more generous. Not everybody's as big a giver as you. You're a giver, John.

Speaker 2: 1:13:22

We can see that I like to keep it small, small circles for these intimate moments. Keep it small, small circles for these intimate moments. But sharing deep, share small. I don't know if I would uh drop trow on the side of the road.

Speaker 1: 1:13:32

He didn't seem happy about it.

Speaker 2: 1:13:33

He seemed under protest I feel like I would evaluate where I'm going, uh, where my next stop on my journey is, here down the road, and I mean physically down the road, to see if I could. You know, is that an opportunity to throw my underwear away, or something like that? I'm not doing it. I don't know if I could do that.

Speaker 1: 1:13:53

I'm interested about your processor here, because you're a-okay with shitting your pants with people in the car, but just taking a side of the road shit is like eh, it feels a little out there.

Speaker 2: 1:14:03

Well, you know there's a lot of strangers involved. These two people in the car know me. Well, you know there's a lot of strangers involved.

Speaker 1: 1:14:08

These two people in the car know me, I mean, they've been around me. This is the side of the freeway. There was no. There was like a city street Well you saw them? Yeah, we're just driving by, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:14:15

Right, you saw it. I mean, that's what I'm worried about. I mean, and you didn't honk. Somebody probably honked they're. Oh God, no, it got it on my shorts Right. I don't need that type of it's, just I'm not a public pooper like that.

Speaker 1: 1:14:31

I see where you're going.

Speaker 2: 1:14:32

I'll go anywhere, but I won't go there.

Speaker 1: 1:14:35

It's kind of like the meatloaf song. Meatloaf song, I was going to say.

Speaker 2: 1:14:39

I'll do anything for shit, but I won't do that.

Speaker 1: 1:14:41

But I won't do that.

Speaker 2: 1:14:44

Yeah, yeah, side of the freeway.

Speaker 1: 1:14:54

You know, maybe if it was on the interstate and I can pull off and there's woods there and I can go into the woods quickly.

Speaker 2: 1:14:58

I might do it that way. Well played, Well played. I can see the strategy has been played out. Yeah, I have to think about this.

Speaker 1: 1:15:00

Your fan base has got you prepared, and that's the real, true meaning of abstract thinking is if I was going to shit myself, where would I go? And now it's preparation. You become clairvoyant and you're no longer anxious yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 2: 1:15:14

I'm not anxious about it, I'm just hoping. I just hope that that lottery ticket does not get me again you got your emergency kit like of extra clothes in the trunk.

Speaker 1: 1:15:24

That's like no, I know how this, this ride, oh yeah, I really do I really keep some underoos in the in the car.

Speaker 2: 1:15:29

Now for that exact reason yeah, we just we just, you know we right out the window. I don't. I hope it doesn't hit somebody's windshield you're gonna change somebody like there's.

Speaker 1: 1:15:45

There's a whole new trauma that I'm helping somebody through because they're like we had to touch it.

Speaker 2: 1:15:50

It was just driving down the road. We're going on a vacation at Disneyland and all of a sudden, Underwear that was just filled with shit, hit the windshield.

Speaker 1: 1:15:59

The smell of it. The guy had to be 110. He must have eaten baby food that day. I don't know what this was, but I still have nightmares.

Speaker 2: 1:16:10

Yeah, that's where we're going.

Speaker 1: 1:16:12

I love it have a good time so I'll be talking through the grief. I'm like let's go through the denial did it happen? Yes, it did you know all right. Was there anger? Was it an injustice? Was there something unfair, like it wasn't right, it was so wrong? And I'm like, yeah, now let's go through the sadness of this, let's work through that, buddy, let's get to the go through the feels oh good stuff and the uh. I think the moral of the story is that shit happens it does.

Speaker 1: 1:16:37

Yeah, we come full circle to radical acceptance, extra inning, and sometimes shit happens. Sometimes shit happens that's right.

Speaker 2: 1:16:46

Just let the shit happen. Be one with the shit, yeah, one with it. It just is mind, heart, body, spirit, shit exactly shit I feel better already I think we did it.

Speaker 1: 1:17:00

That's fair, I feel right. I think that uh people are gonna be listening. I've got some pretty deep episodes. I think this is one that goes uh, really, really into it into it. I think people are going to be getting a lot from this.

Speaker 2: 1:17:12

That's good. That's good. I hope that they all. I hope that they have a different perspective about shitting themselves. I hope that they can all come to terms with. This is normal. This is normal. It's nothing to be upset about.

Speaker 1: 1:17:22

We're embracing the extra innings. I just want somebody to. Really there's no anxiety to be had and I just, you know, fear isn't real Plan for shit to happen in your pants and life is pretty good all around that, you know. And so embrace the awkward 20 minutes where people go. They know you did it.

Speaker 2: 1:17:40

They know you did it they can smell it, they can see it. Oh, that was the other part. Is we had to go back to the hotel? I forgot to tell you that part. Oh wow, oh my God. So you did have to do a public event. Well, no, no, no, no, because I had one of those teenagers that wears hoodies in June. Oh, no, and I said you're going to give me the hoodie?

Speaker 1: 1:17:56

And he says, no, I'm not.

Speaker 2: 1:17:57

And I said, yes, you are, I'm taking the fucking hoodie waist. And we walked into the hotel with never wore that hoodie again a situation yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, he did that went biohazard man, that thing was he's like yeah, you can keep it. I said I'm not keeping it, I keep it there right out the window.

Speaker 1: 1:18:19

Yeah, this hoodie is shit, dude, I'm not. This is a hoodie.

Speaker 2: 1:18:22

I'm not wearing it I mean it's, I mean we're. It's june. Any kid that wears a hoodie in June, it smells like a bag of hot onions anyway. So, I probably made it smell better. Yeah, you fixed it. I fixed it, but he declined to wear it thereafter, so it was unfortunate Blessed.

Speaker 1: 1:18:40

It was his favorite one. Sometimes we're just spoiling our kids. Just throw a hoodie that you improved away.

Speaker 2: 1:18:48

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:18:49

Instant gratification, which is there's just no respect these days.

Speaker 2: 1:18:56

Just give me the hoodie, just give me the hood, you're gonna get a tie stick, it's fine, right, seriously seriously. I mean, you've been wearing this thing for like three weeks straight. It's's 110 degrees outside, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:19:07

You're using the wrong shout. You're yelling at me. Shout it out. Shout it out.

Speaker 2: 1:19:12

It didn't touch the poo. It didn't touch the poo, it was just a covering on the backside.

Speaker 1: 1:19:17

Yeah it's fine, it's fine man. This is exactly how I was expecting this to go.

Speaker 2: 1:19:26

Oh, was it. Yeah, it's a total shit show, so it's perfect. I guess I didn't tell you that in the notes there.

Speaker 1: 1:19:34

No, it's good. So this is a fun thing, man. It's funny as this is. As silly as it is, it's actually really cool. The lessons that are in here there actually are really good lessons. I really do hope people embrace the extra endings. It's brilliant, it really is. And then the concept of breaking depression by by catching legacy, or the concept of potential legacy, makes it so that you found a, an acceptance and a purpose that I think very few people end up finding.

Speaker 2: 1:20:00

It's very, it's a very good lesson. Isn't that our point? Right? That's our point in life, right? There's there's the stage where you're growing up, and then there's the stage where you're learning, and then there's a stage where you're working, and then there's a stage where you're transitioning the information that you have. Right.

Speaker 1: 1:20:15

To the next generation.

Speaker 2: 1:20:17

I feel like those are the stages that we get to have in life. I feel like I'm just at the beginning of that transitioning stage of leaving, leaving my knowledge to the people behind me.

Speaker 1: 1:20:27

There is. There is well the legacy because there's so much media. I think the more complicated it is that, since there's so much media, how easy it is for finding our information to get just lost in the just vast oceans of information Because, like you said, everybody with a phone is just documenting millions of hours of their life every single day. You've just got all these people who are just like. We have 300 terabytes of this person's selfies, we know everything of this person, and so people are documenting so much on their phones to find like well, let me look at your information. It's going to get probably harder and harder to find unless we make truly quality content. To find that legacy is going to get trickier. We're in an interesting time, though. It is an interesting time to see what it's going to be.

Speaker 2: 1:21:17

I don't envy the kids, don't envy them at all.

Speaker 1: 1:21:22

There's a lot of weird things happening. It's tough for kids. There's a good chance, though. It's literally a coin toss. I talked to our daughters. I'm like you guys have a lot of mess to clean up. We really fucked this up for you. Like we, we really royally fucked this. Can't, can't claim our generation did did a good job. We really fucked up our stuff and your stuff. We were all in. We created the weak times, create weak, create weak people. We fucked that up.

Speaker 1: 1:21:47

Yeah, we shit on that. So you guys are going to have to clean this mess up because we shit our pants on this one. So you're going to have to deal with it. And that's kind of the reality of where they're either going to perpetuate harder times and make it worse, or they're going to go. We are not doing what they did, which is really what I'm hoping happens. We can all agree we're not doing what they did, which is really what I'm hoping happens. We're like can we just we're we can all agree we're not doing what our parents did.

Speaker 2: 1:22:14

Right, and I'm kind of hoping that's what they do. I hope so. I hope so, Cause we're, we are uh, uh. You know, they said, lead follower, get out of the way, and most of us just got out of the way and uh you know they're, they're. There seems to be some leaders amongst the next generations behind us. It's just whether or not they're going to get traction in such a fast world where the technology and the information flow is changing so fast and the ability to communicate and communicate, the true message is diluted severely true message is diluted severely.

Speaker 1: 1:22:48

Well, it's getting more and more complicated to understand if somebody is truly a leader of a movement or if they're just an influencer Right, if they're just the face, don't know these days Hard to say, because influencers think they're leading, even though they don't know where they're going at all, which is not a leader. They're going where they're told. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:23:07

Like a leader yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:23:10

Hate the word influencer, Follow me. Yeah well, I mean, it's not a real job.

Speaker 2: 1:23:15

It's kind of the worst that we've even perpetuated that, that we've called people that and that they've taken it to heart.

Speaker 1: 1:23:23

You know what this is? Maybe me in my 40s. I'm going to be just very cliche on this one. I never understood that one. I've never been like because that person is acting like they're important because they took a photo someplace makes me want to do that. I don't care if a meteor hits that person.

Speaker 2: 1:23:43

It gave them a differentiator of status because of the fact that they posted something that a lot of people watched.

Speaker 1: 1:23:51

I still don't know why, though I'm like why. This is the most boring fuck I've ever seen in my life. Why are we building this guy? Why has he got hundreds of thousands to go do this? To wear a shirt for a brand that put it on the most uninteresting shit? I've ever seen a brand that, like, put it on the most uninteresting shit I've ever seen. Actually, I'm more interested in the shit you took in your car than the shit this person's producing for their content. Like I do find it more fat. We've had a longer conversation about actual number two than like how many subscribers this guy has for his shenanigans, so I'm having a hard time understanding the job itself.

Speaker 2: 1:24:28

Yeah, it's, it's. It's a hard time understanding the job itself. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a uh, it's just basic marketing. Unfortunately, it's basic marketing. He pulls, he sells the shirt.

Speaker 1: 1:24:38

Sad that that works.

Speaker 2: 1:24:39

It works, though it's sad. It works on all of it.

Speaker 1: 1:24:43

Children do better, please. That's the message.

Speaker 2: 1:24:50

You guys can better get good. You can fix all of our stuff, but also do better on this influence situation don't do any more of that.

Speaker 1: 1:24:53

That's a stupid idea. We're trying to pass wisdom before we can't remember what we just said.

Speaker 2: 1:25:01

That happens too yeah that's the other part of it.

Speaker 1: 1:25:07

Oh, man, that's good though. Well, I love hanging with you. Man, is there anything else you want to throw out there? For, like dude, you guys should check out this stuff or like follow some things that you're working on. Like, what are some stuff that you got that you'd love to be able to kind of put out there right now, to kind of watch my podcast on YouTube.

Speaker 2: 1:25:24

Watch my podcast. If you enjoyed this interaction right here and you want to see this on steroids, go to my YouTube page. Watch the Check your Feelings podcast. I'm not saying that because I want you to watch it. I'm saying that because it's funny.

Speaker 1: 1:25:38

We don't have to end right now. I'm just saying, as far as this goes, the Check your Feelings thing, I'm very open to it. Tell me a little bit more about what you're doing, because I I've I've only seen, like the one you have all the four people on. Also is one guy's name, bj, in the morning. Is that? Yes, it's just my brother-in-law.

Speaker 2: 1:25:52

Is that your?

Speaker 1: 1:25:53

brother-in-law BJ, in the morning Cause I was like that's like two meanings. We came up.

Speaker 2: 1:25:57

We came up with that which mornings um.

Speaker 1: 1:26:09

But so we can't trademark that but we could still use it.

Speaker 2: 1:26:10

It just sounds like a great way to start the day yeah, it'll be easy in the morning. Um, who doesn't want that check your feelings came up out of a car ride from atlanta. A lot of things happen in atlanta, from atlanta no we were going to norfolk.

Speaker 2: 1:26:24

We're coming down from norfolk, we just saw one of the kids at the base, um, and we're driving back and I'm the kind of guy that likes to call people when I drive and, just you know, catch up with them or whatever, because you're sitting there, you've got nothing else to do. So we call my sister and me and my sister when we talk, we just roast each other. It's pretty much an hour-long roast session, hour-long roast session. And she was like, oh god, we should make a podcast. This is so hilarious, people would love this. And I was like, okay, and she's like what? I was like, yeah, okay, cool, I'll go buy the shit and we'll do a podcast. She's like, really, it's like, yeah, we'll figure it out. I don't know how, but we'll figure it out. So, bottled, a bunch of equipment and, uh, you know, we did the, the first season, uh, which went very well, and we basically just roast each other. I mean, we, we roast each other. And then we've got this beautiful dynamic with Mrs DBV, who she's the older one, right, she's in her later forties Um, she's the balance of it all because she sits there really quietly and then she just throws in these one liner atomic bombs usually directed at me, and it's okay, I'm okay, that's part of the entertainment value. And and bj is like this calm, quiet, sweet, uh, you know, happy guy who doesn't want to ruffle anybody's feathers, but the dynamics between him and my sister are hilarious.

Speaker 2: 1:27:41

Um, and, and now we're into season two. We just had one episode of season two and now we're about to go to the second episode. We're going to record that, this two, and now we're about to go to the second episode. We're going to record that this Sunday, um, and we're going to bring my brother into the fold. Um, we have an older brother that's the same age as Mrs DBV, and so we're going to have this dynamics of five for at least one episode and we're going to see how that works. And you know, we're going to go from there. Um, bj does all the editing. Uh, uh, all that photography is done in my living room. Uh, mrs dbv absolutely hates when we do set up because we destroy her. You know, everything's in the right place, kind of thing to move the couches and all that stuff. Um, and we just have fun and we're usually, you know, having some adult beverages while we're doing it. Uh, and it's just a good time. So watch it. It's fun, it's stupid.

Speaker 1: 1:28:28

Yeah, I like it. It's cool that you're doing that and what a fun way to also stay connected with your family and stuff too. So today's age we have so much opportunity to stay connected and don't, and it's cool that you're like, let's just create a thing that we can be silly and enjoy each other. Yeah, we have a high production value. Yeah, because it is he's doing all the he's, he's cutting all the video cuts, as everybody changes mics, except for when bj's mic isn't on, which I noticed bj is a master at that.

Speaker 2: 1:29:02

I mean the amount of, because, if you think about it, there's four different streams, right, four different files that he's got to chop up, and it takes him about a good solid day to do that for every episode. So that's why we don't do it every two weeks now, we're doing it every month, because it's just, we, we all have real jobs, um, and he and he does all that and then makes this miraculous uh product. He made that intro video, he created that all himself, that's. I mean, he's just a kind of a little master, zen master at all this stuff, um. So yeah, it's absolutely fun. We're gonna keep doing it until you know, one of us hates each other so much we don't want to see each other. It could happen it could.

Speaker 1: 1:29:38

I feel like the, the armor you guys are building to create a have thick skin show. If someone can crack the armor, it should almost be like the like an honor, a badge of honor, instead of like you falling out. You know, it's like wait a second. We've been building this armor up for years and you actually cracked it Like kudos.

Speaker 2: 1:29:59

It was episode 11. I think it was a season one. That was the first time they all jumped on me.

Speaker 1: 1:30:05

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:30:06

Yeah, it was, it was pretty, it was pretty rough. I was like, oh wow, okay, I guess I'm the target today.

Speaker 1: 1:30:13

You guys are almost hurting my feelings right now.

Speaker 2: 1:30:15

You guys are almost hurting my feelings, but this is good stuff. See, turn it around to this is great stuff, keep going, keep going, keep going. And they kept going and I was like, okay, cool, let's keep going.

Speaker 1: 1:30:25

That was a great show everybody.

Speaker 2: 1:30:31

Thanks guys going like that was a great show everybody. Uh, I really appreciate this here.

Speaker 1: 1:30:33

I really am gonna cry but I'll be in my room later that we did it for the gram. We did it good job. I actually need to do some outlets.

Speaker 2: 1:30:39

Uh, I'm emotionally damaged right now, so but that's the point of the show check your feelings. It's. It's, it's a. It's a couple gen xers and a couple millennials sitting there roasting each other and having fun.

Speaker 1: 1:30:51

That's cool man.

Speaker 2: 1:30:52

It's like a Seinfeld episode. We have no script to this thing. We've tried to do topic sheets. It ends up getting thrown out the window because I've got really bad ADHD.

Speaker 1: 1:31:04

Well, not really, because we've been having a conversation and you're doing very well, if you call that very bad adhd.

Speaker 2: 1:31:10

Well, I appreciate that listen.

Speaker 1: 1:31:11

I've had I've worked with people who have adhd where I'm like I actually can't work with them, they can't stay on a topic, so like I actually can't work with this one. This one actually needs specific help.

Speaker 2: 1:31:21

she told me that I needed to cut back on my bunny trails in the comedy bits, but I found out that when I did it live, it was really good. The bunny trails work they really work.

Speaker 1: 1:31:31

I actually think it's a sign of intelligence the way that it can be bunny trailed off wherever you go. It's like you're not going to really throw it off into the mix. When you see people go like there's a glitch in my matrix because I can't follow what you're doing, yeah Well, it's showing a high intelligence to go like dude, go wherever you want, Like it's fine.

Speaker 2: 1:31:52

That's why I did. I was doing a bit on colonoscopies because those are my second favorite thing, of course. I'm shitting myself. I have a problem. I really need to understand why I keep going back to this target area A lot of butthole stuff.

Speaker 1: 1:32:03

But I was doing a bit about colonoscopies because the name of your set is just Butt Stuff, butt Stuff. Yes, that's the set Butt Stuff.

Speaker 2: 1:32:16

Dad Bod Veterans Butt Stuff.

Speaker 1: 1:32:17

Tour. Yeah, we got some Dad Bod Butt Stuff, so let's go ahead and do it.

Speaker 2: 1:32:21

It sounds good, though. I mean, it actually sounds like a tour that you'd be like I might show up. I'd click on it. I'd click on it, I'd click on it, I'd click on it.

Speaker 1: 1:32:27

I'd be like this is going to get weird, you're clicking on it because you hope it's comedy and not porn. You're like please be comedy. Please be comedy, dad, bod butt stuff.

Speaker 2: 1:32:37

I hope it's funny, butt stuff. Tour 2026 coming soon. Yeah, and I start the bit out talking about, you know, the most awkward time that I met a fan. That's how the bit started, because it's a true story. I met a fan when I was having a colonoscopy.

Speaker 2: 1:32:55

Yeah, awkward right, but then I go down the bunny trail of how different colonoscopies are from yesterday when we used to have to do the go lightly for those of us who have been doing colonoscopies our whole life. I have been doing them a long time because my dad was colon cancer, so I'm used to doing them. But they've changed, you know, and now now we're doing it with the, the over the counter stuff, right, and it's much more gentle on your tum tums. But I just kept going down all these bunny trails to finally get into the story and and she was like you got to take all that out, you just got to take all that out, just out. You just gotta take all that out, just just take it out. And I was like no, I'm not gonna take it out, I think I like it. Plus, I have 15 minutes and I'm I need to, I need to fill all this time. And man, the bunny trails killed it. They just they just killed.

Speaker 1: 1:33:39

So we're we're gonna build in more bunny trails I think the hard part is, though, is sometimes, when you're riffing like that, you're like that was such a good set. I um, I'm actually having a hard time duplicating that set because I'm riffing.

Speaker 2: 1:33:51

Yeah, yeah, it's a scary part, because if you do script stuff then you get to like, uh, what do I say next? Right versus riffing, but then riffing could go totally south too. Oh, if you just have like a duh moment, which I'm sure I will eventually it. They say you have to have a bad set. They say you have to have a bad set. So yeah, I haven't had mine yet.

Speaker 1: 1:34:14

That happens, man, like they're funny too. I like I do a lot of training. I do like I do probably I do maybe between 20 to 25 group trainings a week, like I do real, like real, like deep work stuff, and sometimes I have trainings that I'm like I really think I got this down. I have advanced training on Tuesday with guys who have gone through all my programs, stuff like this. I do advanced stuff and I remember I had one that seemed absolutely correct about like how chaos is the order and how you can see how things are all connected. And so you're trying to control things that are already supposed to be not controlled, which is control. And I'm breaking this whole thing down and I'm realizing I got, I got fucking PhDs and doctors in this group and they're all waiting for like. So I'm waiting for you to do like that Rick thing that wraps it all in a bow, and I'm like I'm like I did it.

Speaker 1: 1:35:03

Dude, the chaos is the order. Don't you see that it looks correct, guys? And I'm realizing, in the middle of this training it's just bombing hard. I'm like I'm reading it right now. It looks correct. How are you guys not getting? This doesn't seem as esoteric as it's coming off and uh, yeah, sometimes you just gotta have those sets where, like I'm still laughing, I'm like I I don't even know how to fix it. It's correct, I did the math.

Speaker 2: 1:35:32

yeah, it was right, it was right, the punchline was there. They just didn't get it, but it's right, didn't miss it. And you, you can't just go to the mic and be like, oh god, that's a horrible joke, throw that one out yeah, you just gotta eat it.

Speaker 1: 1:35:48

Oh man, that's actually probably. You probably really could pull off the DadBotButtStuff tour and people would be like, really could. It is funny.

Speaker 2: 1:35:56

It's just a funny name. I mean, judging by what tours are being named these days, that would be perfect. Yeah, I'll think about it.

Speaker 1: 1:36:05

So, listen, we're just dream building at the moment. Yeah, we are. We don't know where it's going to go.

Speaker 2: 1:36:09

We don't even know who's going to be the opener. I don't know it's going to be up to somebody that doesn't like butt stuff.

Speaker 1: 1:36:16

I'm hoping they're the shit and it's not just total shit which would go along with.

Speaker 2: 1:36:23

We'll put that story in there too. It's just going to be a series of stories on butt-related situations. There's going to be a series of stories on butt-related situations. I love it. I don't know. I don't know how it's going to go.

Speaker 1: 1:36:32

How do I subscribe? Where is the button?

Speaker 2: 1:36:35

It's probably going to have to be on OnlyFans. I don't know. That's what I was going to say Earlier. You were like there's so many opportunities to make money in this world. I can't believe that that's an opportunity to make money, and I tell people that I'm like look, whenever you're down and desperate, just get a jar of peanut butter, a hot dog and take some feet pics. Take some feet pics, but see you're cringing. You're cringing, but you know that I'm right.

Speaker 1: 1:37:06

Listen, I'm not arguing. There's no counter. There's no counter here, it's just more of. I'm still working through the acceptance of I don't think it's incorrect, but it's so wrong, like like it's not. He's not wrong, but it's wrong, and so I'm going through that it's morally wrong. It's morally wrong because you get the hot dog and peanut butter but it's technically true, and uh, there's someone who's like where is? It how many 50 bucks for that. Where is it? Where is it? Is it a link in the bio? Yeah, where is it? Where?

Speaker 2: 1:37:40

is it? It's true, it's true. There's so many ways to make money. I told my brother that he was like, oh, I'm struggling with this bar opening. I'm like, dude, you better get that peanut butter out. It's time.

Speaker 1: 1:37:50

It's time, man, I told you you want peanut butter.

Speaker 2: 1:37:56

You can make a video of your wife farting in a jar. Then you fart in the jar and send it to somebody. You'll make millions because they'll open it up and they're like man, what did this chick eat?

Speaker 1: 1:38:07

There's asparagus this week.

Speaker 2: 1:38:11

But chick eat. Yeah, there's asparagus this week. What?

Speaker 1: 1:38:12

stuff, but more butt stuff. We're farting in jars now yeah okay, well, although part of the joke is how much did it sell for?

Speaker 2: 1:38:17

so, like there is a, there is there is a thing we're like. No, he made 300 bucks off of that and it was like all it cost him was, you know, ten dollars at taco bell yeah and shipping don't let that jar break on the way.

Speaker 1: 1:38:33

There's a you have to put fragile on the outside of the box which is also part of a funny thing to say. In my real life, I have shipped a jar of farts and you're like that's a, that's just a thing that's happened, which is even more funny. As you know, someone has.

Speaker 2: 1:38:54

No, there was a girl who did it and she got like she was making so much money off of it that she was forcing herself to fart and had to go to the hospital.

Speaker 1: 1:39:02

Wait.

Speaker 2: 1:39:03

She was over farting. This is a thing.

Speaker 1: 1:39:07

I'm processing this, look it up. So wait a second. She hospitalized herself from what like just the aggressive pushing for farts no, the aggressive.

Speaker 2: 1:39:15

Whatever she was eating and and the amount of farting that she was doing, she was making like 200k a month or something like that selling farts in a jar that's all right.

Speaker 1: 1:39:26

Actually, we're looking it up. There's no way, all right. So somebody's selling farts in a jar and then hospitalizes themselves and then gets hospitalized.

Speaker 2: 1:39:36

Look it up, let's see.

Speaker 1: 1:39:37

The Googles will tell me yeah, I'm going in Farts in a jar Hospitalization. This is that we're so live it hurts right now. Oh my God, this came up.

Speaker 2: 1:39:52

Yeah, Stephanie Maddow who appears on 98 Fountains for Hospice, experienced severe gas pain 31 years old.

Speaker 1: 1:40:00

How did she get retired?

Speaker 2: 1:40:01

after being hospitalized.

Speaker 1: 1:40:02

She's a fartrepreneur. She's making $254,000 a year selling her farts in a jar. Told you who is buying this. People, son of a bitch. Told you.

Speaker 2: 1:40:22

So I don't want to hear that no one can make money.

Speaker 1: 1:40:24

There's opportunities everywhere.

Speaker 2: 1:40:27

It may not be what you like, it may not be what you want to do, but it's there.

Speaker 1: 1:40:32

She said I thought I was having a stroke and these were my final moments. I was overdoing it. That's the quote. Oh, she's from 90 day fiance.

Speaker 2: 1:40:42

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:40:44

Oh my God. Well, that's a real thing, that's a, that's a real thing, that's a real thing, some little bitch.

Speaker 2: 1:40:53

Yeah, if you can think it, somebody will buy it.

Speaker 1: 1:40:56

Man, we got to sell some weird shit. All right, yeah, you can market it. I'm like, if you smell my farts you will get smarter.

Speaker 2: 1:41:05

And that's why I said that we should have one of the wives take a video of farting acting like she's farting in the jar, and then we fart in the jar because we know that a male fart is way more potent than a female fart, the old switcheroo and we want to give them their money's worth. I want to make sure they really got, because it's got to survive the ship yeah it's got it and when they open it and they get that blast, they're gonna be like I gotta get another one.

Speaker 1: 1:41:31

They're like my hair standing up.

Speaker 2: 1:41:33

Oh my god we're gonna get I'm gonna get people who have like they're gonna pay, like it's two thousand dollars for a monthly subscription this was so potent man. That was the best ever guys in china will buy it by the gallon they sell.

Speaker 1: 1:41:48

Farts are in gallons now I don't know.

Speaker 2: 1:41:51

We'll figure it out. We'll set up a process line. We'll have some big guys from the bar that drink Hefeweizens just lined up, oh wow.

Speaker 1: 1:42:03

Pay them nickels. Yeah, there's so much money on the bottom half of the hypergamy pyramid we got to just capitalize the jars of fart guys, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:42:14

Well, I know of like 10 or 12 guys at Easy. We could put up a processing line.

Speaker 1: 1:42:19

Wow.

Speaker 2: 1:42:20

Hand them some. Good, you know nice thick beers.

Speaker 1: 1:42:24

Yeah, I mean, if you're wanting potency, I've got like professional strong men and all kinds of stuff in my groups.

Speaker 2: 1:42:29

There you go the guys around the creatine and stuff like that, eating the hard boiled eggs.

Speaker 1: 1:42:34

The guy's like 350 solid muscle with more protein in his system than a cow.

Speaker 2: 1:42:41

He's literally probably farting solid.

Speaker 1: 1:42:46

You can actually see.

Speaker 2: 1:42:47

You can physically see when he farts.

Speaker 1: 1:42:49

It's like those you ever seen the lightest substance on earth? It's like this, like weird little jello thing it's like a cloud. It's the opposite those are his actual farts is like you, it's like a, you can hold it. Yeah, I gotta let him know, I gotta let him know there's a market my buddy, if you got some time off of work, let's go ahead and make you like a couple of mil you just need to stop by Del Taco on the way home it is the strongest fart you can get.

Speaker 1: 1:43:14

That's right, it comes from the strong man.

Speaker 2: 1:43:16

No, no, don't say it comes from a strong man, just like I have a picture of a petite little blonde on it.

Speaker 1: 1:43:21

Oh, it's part of the marketing.

Speaker 2: 1:43:22

You know what she did it.

Speaker 1: 1:43:23

I'm clearly new this region. Here I am trying to sell true, true products.

Speaker 2: 1:43:30

Yeah, yeah, see you're looking at it all, wrong, yeah, clearly Looking at it all wrong?

Speaker 1: 1:43:33

Obviously my mistake. They don't see where I went wrong Everybody wants to have a beautiful cow.

Speaker 2: 1:43:37

They don't want to see what a real cow looks like. Okay, they see that nice dairy cow out there in the field eating the grass. They don't want to see them caged up, you know, stuck with their udders stuck in the machine. They don't want to know, they want to see it beautiful. You got to give them what they want.

Speaker 1: 1:43:53

Show them a picture of the pasture and then give them a little something out there.

Speaker 2: 1:44:00

Yeah, I got it. I'm going to make a mint.

Speaker 1: 1:44:04

This is utterly ridiculous. All right, so yeah, I kind of it's funny, but I hate that. This is real. Like that's a real thing. You can go ahead and just sell some farts. Even more bananas is like how did it even get to? Like here's what I should do. You know, there's some dude who's like I will pay you good money for a fart.

Speaker 2: 1:44:24

Well, think about the Hawk Tua girl.

Speaker 1: 1:44:26

Yeah, so I don't know that much about it.

Speaker 2: 1:44:30

I don't know that much about it. I don't, I don't follow that stuff. So she's been offered like 50, 100 000 to spit in a jar do it.

Speaker 1: 1:44:38

I don't plug into this stuff, man I don't have a choice. I mean we're no, no you, you, you, yeah, but you get to make like content off of this. My content is just me just hanging out like so I don't, I don't, I don't have any stitches on any of this. I don't do anything like there's a video and then I stitch it. I've never done one. It's just my girl interrupting me and I answer her questions. Follow me for more interesting stuff.

Speaker 1: 1:45:03

Yeah, that's hilarious. We're in weird times, man. That's what reminds me of Idiocracy, though. What was the hottest show Kicked in the? So like we're in weird times, man, that's what reminds me. The idiocracy, though, is like what was the the hottest show? That?

Speaker 2: 1:45:13

kicked in the nuts.

Speaker 1: 1:45:14

Kicked in the nuts, yeah kicked in the nuts my balls, ouch my balls, that's what it was called yeah, ouch my balls like that's the hottest show is here in the nuts far away this is this. Is it we're selling farts and uh spitting jars and you know the only fans aren't even. They're not even responding, it's just somebody who handles the account for them.

Speaker 2: 1:45:38

Yeah, we're really in the silliest of times we're there we're there and I hope that, uh, I I would like to not uh allow gen x to take responsibility for this. I would like to say that, because we were here before those times, that it was the next generation that really cranked that up.

Speaker 1: 1:45:57

You can really go like. I wish I could claim it, but I don't even know how I forgot my password.

Speaker 2: 1:46:01

Yeah, exactly. It's like how do I? My facial recognition doesn't even work anymore.

Speaker 1: 1:46:05

How do I reset my password for my phone? Is it on Verizon? And you're like. You're like no, it's a service provider, that's not the password. I'm pretty no, I pay verizon, so they have my password. They're like no, they don't listen. That's kind of. That's kind of like this couldn't have been us we.

Speaker 2: 1:46:25

We don't even know how to do it but, uh, I do appreciate these younger generations making all these videos for me. Yeah, otherwise I wouldn't exist like this.

Speaker 1: 1:46:36

I'm a little concerned as soon as I want to start playing in that realm of like. Let me comment on this video. I think that's kind of when I know I've got a lot more time on my hands all of a sudden is when I'm like I'm going to scroll this for a while. Yeah, we call it doom scrolling.

Speaker 2: 1:46:52

Yeah, I've heard it. Yeah, don't get caught in it. I doom scroll for the purpose of finding material, so I can say that it's part of my job.

Speaker 1: 1:47:02

Yeah, your doom scrolling is giving you opportunity. I feel like I think I doom scroll for maybe like less than three minutes and I'm already like over it. Yeah, I can't do it, I have to. I don't even run my social media. They tell me I'm viral. I'm like that's great. Which platform? I don't even know, I don't care.

Speaker 2: 1:47:26

That's a good place to be. Stay out as long as you can.

Speaker 1: 1:47:30

Like they're blowing up the comments. I'm care. That's a good place to be. Stay out as long as you can. They're blowing up the comments.

Speaker 2: 1:47:35

I'm like, let them fight, I'm not even getting involved. No, it's good to let them fight. I usually get in the comments If they start fighting. I egg it on a little bit.

Speaker 1: 1:47:42

Listen, I want to put it out there for the fellas. Listen, I will say and I've seen other people who actually do real helpful content, ladies, other like people who actually do like real helpful content, uh, ladies need to step it up because, um, a solid high 90 percent of the negativity in the comments is just the women, like there's just negativity. But I'm going to point it out there, I'm going to put it out there fellas are starting to hit back. They're starting to go like no, we're not going to just sit around letting you hate, monger, everyone, karen, we're going to shut that shit down and like there lot more guys going. Nope, we're not going to just sit around and let you hate, hate and hate and hate. We're going to go. No, there's merit to the conversation. You change the topic, decrease trauma and arguments. We're not sitting there, we're not going to take it anymore and like the Twisted Sisters song comes on and we're not going to take it.

Speaker 1: 1:48:26

You're with me. And so now the guys are starting to go. Nope, we're not going to let just karen ruin everything anymore, unless they're married to her and they will not do that well then they. Then they join my group and I show them how to be compassionately and empathetically disagreeable, and then I've got you covered like babe, I love you, I hear you, I don't agree with you at all.

Speaker 2: 1:48:47

My uh, the missus, that's what she does. She is a pot stirrer. She's a purposeful pot stirrer and she doesn't really do much of her own content, but she trolls the crap out of mine for the purpose of starting crap. That's what she does, and professionally she's pretty good at it. Um, and I don't ever respond to her comments. Yeah, I just let that one go. That's not because people are like ooh, dad bod, she said that. I'm like yes, she did.

Speaker 1: 1:49:16

Yeah, yeah, we're on troll patrol, we're not answering those ones.

Speaker 2: 1:49:20

Like that's a troll we don't answer it, but it's created this nice little family dynamic that we have in social media and I enjoy it thoroughly.

Speaker 1: 1:49:32

That's a beautiful dynamic. That's what love is, and that's what love is, guys.

Speaker 2: 1:49:36

Yeah, she's like I will be the quiet supportive jockstrap in the background and I'll just keep everything nice and tight and I'll make sure that we keep the comments rolling, yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:49:47

Once in a while I'll just flick you in the ball, Just to let you know I'm there just let you know, I'm there very fun, man. Well, john, I'm glad we got to do this. If there's anything else we can do in the future, I am, um, I'm a little bit of a serious guest when I'm on a show. If you ever have me on, make sure we're doing comedy, because uh, otherwise I'll do some deep work conversation and be talking about like hardcore shit.

Speaker 1: 1:50:12

So oh yeah, absolutely, we'll be doing comedy for sure, if there's ever any chance that I can do something to serve or I help you guys out, just let me know. But otherwise, man, it's been an honor to hang out with you. Dude, I really appreciate you.

Speaker 2: 1:50:23

Thanks, man, I really appreciate, it's been a blast cool.

Speaker 1: 1:50:25

Is there anything you want to promote real quick before we leave, like where to go?

Speaker 2: 1:50:29

like subscribe, do all this stuff like and subscribe on all the socials. The dad bod veteran um. Youtube is where I want you to be, so go ahead towards that. That's also where my podcasts live in my live stream, so go hang out on youtube with me hit the buttons and do the things.

Speaker 1: 1:50:43

Thanks a lot, brother. All right, man.