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The Battlefield Of The Mind
Introducing Rick Yee, author of the groundbreaking book "Everything is a Choice" - where he teaches that even the most complex decisions can be broken down into simple choices.Rick's unique approach is all about training your brain and raising your awareness. Creating the truly authentic, high-value person you were always meant to be. He's helped countless individuals make life-changing decisions and take control of their lives. Don't settle for less than you deserve, start making choices that empower you with Rick Yee's guidance! This is the way, the warrior's way!
The Battlefield Of The Mind
112. Navigating the Battlefield of Inner Struggles with Rick: Brotherhood, Growth, and the Power of Community Support
Join the compelling conversation with Rick, a warrior of the mind and spirit, as he unveils the transformative power of confronting our innermost struggles. Rick, with his unique approach to coaching, leads us through the battlefields of PTSD, addiction, and personal hells, emphasizing the strength found in unity and brotherhood. This episode promises an enlightening journey into the heart of personal growth and the power of community support that heals and empowers.
As we unravel the intricate web of relationships and personal development, Rick's wisdom shines a light on the challenges and triumphs of navigating life's tumultuous waters. This discussion uncovers the delicate dance of partners supporting each other through growth, the societal pressures that shape our gender roles, and the dynamics affecting fathers in custody battles. It's an honest look at the modern-day phenomena affecting us all, from the rise of digital platforms like OnlyFans to the changing landscape of gender dynamics.
Wrapping up with insights into government policies and their impact on family structures, Rick offers a thought-provoking perspective on how society has shifted and what it might mean for our future. He shares his vision for creating alpha leaders through community engagement, suggesting that a return to traditional roles could lead to societal balance and stronger relationships. Prepare to be inspired and challenged as we explore these themes and more with Rick, a true champion of change and resilience.
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What's up, warriors? Welcome back to the battlefield of the mind. My name is Rick and I am here with my babe, so when we do our hey babe videos, this is my babe, this is my Andrea, and she is interviewing me today, so we're about to see how this goes.
Speaker 2:I'm looking forward to it. Have a lot of good questions, I feel like you're the host baby, all right.
Speaker 2:The most do the thing, so I was thinking about when it came to interviewing you. What are some of the things that I want to ask you? We talk all the time, but I think that there is not enough information when it comes to the things that you really do on a daily basis. I think people will watch us on tiktok or they'll listen to your podcast and they can have an idea, but I don't think most people really get it Other than you know. The people that you train and the men that are in your group. They get it, but I don't think a lot of people really understand what you do, and so I wanted to just kind of start there and Share with people what is it that you do like? What is it day in the life of you look like?
Speaker 1:It's a. It's a hard question to answer and here's the reason why is. We've actually spent a lot of money on Marketing companies and people to try to figure it out, but it's uh, it's like one of those things. If you have a job that does a lot of things like, say, military, like I do, military, there's a lot of pieces to military. There's communications, there's Navy, there's army, there's there's Marines, there's seals, there's others, rangers You've got the whole spectrum, huge spectrum, and inside of each one of those there's a whole bunch of jobs, everything from, you know, frontline killers to Water filtration, like it's all come, all through it. There's a lot so to say, well, okay, well, if you're a military, what is it that you do? Well, you're like it's all right. Where do I begin? Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And so, when it comes to what I do, I do everything from. I Write the programs, I build the programs, I do the calls, I do the deep work, transformation. I go into the hells that people are working through and fight with them to get out. I train people to be proficient warriors. It's not just a validation of emotions or feelings. We create community, we create camaraderie, we train differently. I don't need you to be super secretive.
Speaker 1:We found that when we train as a unit, when we train with a team, especially the men, we get 10 times more results. We get way faster. The guys connect with each other, we get more perspectives, we learn much more effectively. The curses that we hold on to are easier to break. We can look at it from different ways. We do everything, but also I do everything from like we write the books, I do the shows, I write the, the, all the, the. You know the events that we have to do. I do the speeches, I do all of it, and so we make the graphics, we do the websites, we do that. It's what I do is a very broad question and I have a really hard time answering it but I think that there.
Speaker 2:But I think even with that, like writing the programs, that that is a lot of work and I see how much time and energy you put into that. But I think the most rewarding part of it isn't that kind of stuff that you're doing. It's working with your men on a daily basis, right?
Speaker 1:I think. I think the hard part for this is people ask what you do, not what you are, and that's that's a harder question. If you think about that for a second, what are you? That's different than what do you do. You know, and this is why when people go, what do you do? We go to job, but what are you? Well, then people start getting a little more, sometimes esoteric or sometimes more specific.
Speaker 1:You know, I am a father, or I am a child of God, or I am a Warrior, or I am a builder, or I am something, and then we start getting into an identity of purpose.
Speaker 1:My purpose is To be able to go into hell and pull people out so they have a fighting chance to break the curses that their families have been held down by. I Go into the nightmares that hold you down from any of your potential that becomes unused. This is the everything from the abuse, the abandonment, ptsd, the Destinations, the suicidal thoughts, the addictions, the depression, the anxiety, the things that ruin your life. I Show you how to kill them. They're beatable, and so what I do and who I am, or what I am, I am a curse breaker, I am a warrior who will come in and teach you how to be the best pack leader and a warrior yourself. And even today we had huge successes. Guys who are so penned down by the societal push, pushes for being a nice guy and they finally are holding their ground and they're like. It's the first time in my life I can say I am proud of myself.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm and he like you know one of the guys today is like when I see you guys, I'm fucking kissing all you. He's like you guys helped me find the warrior inside of me. I hold my ground, I get respect. Now my wife follows. The people who took advantage of me are backing off. He's like I feel free for the first time in my life and I'm like that's, that's what I am. I'm the guy who gives that to men.
Speaker 2:So I want to get into this, as I don't push as well, but I think that Four guys that are out there that are going through hell, right, or maybe they're not going through hell, they're just having a tough moment in their life, right? How do they go about like booking the call, like where did it? Where would they go?
Speaker 1:It's a trick. We have a lot of different ways to do it. Generally, the easiest way to do it is on our website. You can find the Cali link. You'll talk to somebody that we don't use AI bots or anything, at least not at this moment. This is 2024 when we did this recording, so yeah you know, later there might be like no other option, but for right now you'll talk to one of our warriors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and and I think that maybe the point that I'm getting at is, with all this stuff that you're saying, all very important stuff helping these, these men, you know, find freedom in their lives and stand up for themselves, and many other things. But I think the one of the most beautiful things that I see that you do is and we do not talk about this enough, because I would, and I've said this before, I'd put what you do against other people that are out there and I guarantee you you give them more support than I've ever seen any coach give, and your men meet pretty much six days a week, right.
Speaker 1:We meet more than that right.
Speaker 2:So every single day, even more than once, and there's there's different things you have right, but the main support group is a standing time every single day when your men jump on and they have a sense of community, and I think that's what's so beautiful about this. It's not a program that you have where you sign up, you watch a video, you come back, you talk about it and then you don't see or talk to anybody else or have that support for another week, right until you learn the next lesson and you get the more information you come back the next week and now you're talking about it. No, you do not only the group, the groups right to go over the information, but then you have daily conversations where people, these men, have the support of each other, but also, at any point, you pair them up so they have a shield mate, right.
Speaker 1:We have options for shield nature.
Speaker 2:So what I'm trying to get at is there's so much community with these men to have each other's backs to build this community. So no one. It goes through this alone, and I think that is something that's so beautiful about your program and what you do, because it doesn't. I've never heard of any other program existing this way, and I've done a couple programs on my own. It doesn't. It doesn't operate like that. Your people are not there. In fact, when the class is over, everyone disperses. People say they'll keep in contact. You don't hear from those people. They don't even follow up to check on you. I was doing that for a while. I'm like, okay, and I see that I'm not getting a response here. Okay, and then you disconnect where your men I have never seen anything like it like the programs over and guys that have Graduated from that first class jump into a next one because they want to be part of that community, because that's where they find what would you call it?
Speaker 1:It's the men, the camaraderie. But more than that, we we as men Require belonging, value and purpose. We require it, and so we have to have Something that like, we belong to and it matters. And so that's what we've created, and we found that and it's faster. We have people. Even today, I, people like I've been doing therapy for 15 years, and even just a few weeks here has given me more growth Than 15 years of therapy.
Speaker 1:Just to kind of be clear too, I don't call myself like a life coach or or whatever it would be. People try to classify it. We're still trying to figure out what we are, because it's not regular. This isn't a traditional therapy, it's not a clinical psychology, it's not a psychiatry. This isn't life coach. This isn't motivational speaking, it's not a support team. It's like it's something different.
Speaker 1:What we're doing is creating a Community is the closest word to it of real hard-ass, amazing leaders, warriors who will stand for what is right, who will fight against injustice, who will do the right thing to make sure their people are good. Not about who is right, but what is right. They stand their ground on what they believe is best for their people and they do not require everyone's Validation or approval to do the right thing, a train real warriors and so like. It's really amazing to watch the amount of growth and productivity and confidence, raw Confidence, when they know how to defeat the hardest battles. In their mind it's fear, it's doubt, it's worthiness, it's Anger, it's depression, it's the you know the things that destroy the dreams. It's the heartbreaks that they could never get over. It's the abandonment that they rule their life with. It's the isolation that kills them with suicidal thoughts. It's very different when you belong.
Speaker 1:The guys who have suicidal thoughts when they plug in, especially into the nighttime support where you just hang out, you just hang, you're one of the boys and they're cool guys. This isn't a bunch of nonsense, it's cool guys and you're you one of them, you're one of us. We've had guys that like I don't have any friends, I got nothing, man, I'm isolated, I'm alone. And now you're hanging out with good guys who are healthy, solid, build each other up and now you belong somewhere. The suicide calls have stopped. It's been over a year since we've had a true like I think that they're gonna end it tonight call Because all of those guys now have a place, they belong and those thoughts don't get to win anymore. Now you have a team that fights it together and they start to realize that they have a value that's beyond what their general circumference of Influence is. They reaches further and you matter to somebody and it changes everything. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's pretty powerful, and to say that you haven't had any suicide calls in over a year is is huge.
Speaker 1:They used to be a lot it's. You used to hear them, yeah, in the middle of the night they used to be often.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that's also what's so great is that no one's ever gonna find themselves with someone that's not jumping in to help them, or two, and it could be in the middle of the night. Like these guys are there for each other on holidays, like there's moments you know, I'm Thanksgiving morning or a Christmas morning or certain holidays where some of these guys are alone and you're like, hey, I'm gonna jump on with the guys For an hour just to make sure no one's spending their holiday alone. That's the part that I just I I love about the community that you give to your men and, again, I I've never seen anything like it. So thank you for sharing that, because I think it's it. We don't talk about that enough, and I think that's one of the biggest parts of what you do. It's, yeah, it's the entertaining part. Is the entertaining part? Why are you smiling like that?
Speaker 1:I? I'm just watching where you're gonna go, babe.
Speaker 2:So I do want to talk about. You know, we get into like societal pushes and I do want to kind of transition into that a little bit. And I want to start with what are you seeing, your guys? What do you guys talk about as far as, like, the sunset oh my gosh, can't say it societal pushes that you guys see.
Speaker 1:There's a lot more Observation. Men are logical and so we're watching and we try to understand. And then, once we understand, we go what do we think is best and we do a thing that's different. This isn't Rick's group, just so. People think like this is like some sort of like rick tatership. It's nothing to do with that. This is like. This is just. It's like.
Speaker 1:I operate a lot more like Camelot rules and you can agree or disagree and I give zero fucks. What you care is how I operate. It's a round table. We all put our swords on the table. Everyone gets a say, and you should challenge me just like I challenge you. Everybody gets equal say, and my warriors, who have been around a long time, they will directly go.
Speaker 1:I don't agree with you, man. I think it's this and we're supposed to. There is no like. You didn't agree with me. You're out. We have no blame, no shame, no judgment as part of our creed. For a reason I deserve to be challenged because I reserve the right to change my mind with new information. And so, yeah, we have a very different thing, societal things that come up for us. We put it on the table as a unit, all of us. There'll be 20, 30, 40, 50 guys. We're sitting there going.
Speaker 1:What do you guys see in with this? And what it is is a collaboration of alphas, not Abusive asshole. Beer can crush and fuck everybody. Alphas, no pack leaders. Every man has a family. Every man has a some sort of organization. They run themselves. They could be business owners, they could be a crew runner. They're a leader in some way, shape or form. Even if it's just I have one kid, I don't care if it's you got two dogs. Like you're still an alpha, you're still the leader. So what kind of leader are you? And when you gather a bunch of alphas in a room who respect each other in a way where we can Challenge each other to grow by sharing best practices, you grow exponentially.
Speaker 1:The reason why is Every book you read, pick a book. It doesn't matter if I write a, read a book from somebody who guys, like I don't know 60 years old when you wrote it. He just put a book down with 60 years of his information, 60 years of life experience, and he's like this is what I found. And I read that book and say it takes me a couple days. I just advanced my brain 60 years of thought. Now, multiply that by however many books you've read. Now I've read a hundred books, right? If I read a hundred times, 60, I'm like 6,000, right, I'm 6,000 years of information now, right? You know, man, I'm really I have a lot of information now. Multiply that by 50 guys who all have that. We're at hundreds of thousands of years of information in one phone call. And we're all exchanging Experiences, best practices, things that have worked, things that do not work. We're sharing the things that have had the outcomes and results that have been the best, and then you can hear from 10 or 20 Different perspectives with huge amounts of information, all sorted, all organized, and then you can go. I've heard all of your points of view. Let me take the one that feels the most authentic to my fighting style and I'm gonna try it that way with my pack.
Speaker 1:When you have these kinds of groups, it makes it so. When you see the normal everyday bullshit, it becomes really difficult to be defeated by it, because our awareness is too high and Good leaders aren't gonna just fall for everybody's temper tantrum or people's outbursts, or when people tell you what you should or shouldn't do, when you know what is right over who is right. And when you bring an idea like this like my wife said or my girlfriend said, or this person said, or my mom said, or Whoever said, or my best friend said or somebody did or whatever they did and you bring that to the group, we look at it from all these different directions and the wisest man in the room will see it from multiple perspectives. This makes you an alpha that is able to see in hundreds of thousands of years of information In just one hour, sometimes 30 minutes, and now you are the wisest leader. There's a.
Speaker 1:I don't always get biblical, but if I go Solomon on this one and I go into Proverbs 24, verse 3, was it 5, verse 5? Now, this is the nlt version. Pick your Bible. There's all different ones say it differently, but in Proverbs 25, 24, I promise Let me say it right, guys.
Speaker 1:Proverbs 24, verse 5 the wiser mightier than the strong, and those with knowledge grow stronger and stronger. So don't go to war without wise guidance. Victory depends on having many advisors, and we use this as part of our bar, our guideline of like yeah, you're strong, dude, on your own, but the smarter are much stronger and you become wiser. With wise counsel, with wise guidance, team up with all of the advisors you've got, then make the best choice you can, once you've looked at it from as many ways as you possibly can look at it and Like this makes you the best leader, because it's not just you. Based on the experience of your parents, you know whatever it is you were exposed to from TV or YouTube or whatever your influences are. You're sitting there now and you can do real life, real work on Social and society nonsense.
Speaker 1:Yeah and then go back into battle to protect your pack with information you never would have known before.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, speaking of the Bible, we get asked this question a lot. Is this group Christian based?
Speaker 1:it is not Christian based. It took me 38 years to find God. So I do not judge people's journey. I am Christian but I follow Christ. This doesn't mean I worship a building. It means I listen to the practices of Christ himself and that gets into a different part of beliefs. But I don't believe that a building and church, because even our, our Spirit side, you have a soul, you have one. I don't care what you believe, you have one and that's how we connect.
Speaker 1:And a lot of us have to repress it because we grew up in churches or people's beliefs where they use God to their advantage. God even says I should say Jesus even says in Matthew 7 at the end of it, that there'll be false prophets and people who do all these things in God's name. He's gonna say you're not one of mine, you get away from me, you break God's laws, you don't even try you, you abuse in God's name. And so people have a lot of church hurt my Thursday night as it stands. I have two of my leaders. One of them is a doctorate in theology. He is very, very Well-versed in all religions. And then another guy was a Hebrew Pastor for the Dead Sea Scrolls knows his stuff. He's very, very smart and both of them are like we don't believe in church.
Speaker 1:We create our church by gathering together. There's a gathering of more than two men, that's we're in church, doesn't matter where we are. We could be in a restaurant, or we can be on zoom, or we can be in person. He's like we're doing God's work now. So is that a Christian group or a church group? It's not what we are, because we have guys who are also not Christian. They're not, and that's okay too, because I want a gathering of minds, but we don't neglect each other soul spirits and we don't judge on beliefs, because I Don't judge your journey. It took me a long time to find it, so I can't tell you what you should or shouldn't do or who you should believe or not believe in.
Speaker 2:You'll find it as you find you and I think I was gonna say that too your, your creed is no blame, no shame, no judgment, right?
Speaker 2:So if you have someone coming in that has a different religious belief or different relationship, and that's part of your creed, right, and I know you and your guys so you don't, you don't break creed and you stand very firm on that, and I think that's so important, because so many people are have different beliefs and you single out one. You're doing just that. You're judging someone's belief system or, you know, are shaming their belief system, and so I think that creed For your group is is so strong and I hear you say it over and over and over, especially when people get in tough situations no blame, no shame, no judgment. Because you'll find, I think people sometimes naturally and I know I'm guilty of this too If you do something that didn't feel good, you start to shame yourself, right, or blame yourself or judge yourself right, and I think not only do you guys use that creed for each other, but you remind your men not to use it against themselves.
Speaker 2:Yeah which is huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, blame, shame and judgment is just waste time for healing. Yeah, gets in the way. Believe what you believe. My, my belief system is still routed in free will is the game, which is why I think, even if it comes to re rewiring your own belief systems, even about yourself or how you see the world, or Whether be racism, sexism, whatever you believe it doesn't matter how you believe in business, how you believe in friendships Well, you believe in anything.
Speaker 1:I believe that everything is a choice. At the end of it, you get to have the free will to decide how you're gonna handle or how you, you know, treat any situation. So where you are in your journey is not for me to judge, because it took me a long time to understand myself and now that I do, it's a lot easier for me to accept people when they're in their journeys, and A lot of times you can see the more wounded someone is, the more blame, shame and judgment they try to force onto others because they seek compliance, because they aren't healed. And we also train to have the armor up for these kinds of attacks because people will try and tell you what you should do, but they don't know themselves.
Speaker 2:It's easier to Initially, I think, maybe Artificially it's easier to put that blame on somebody else rather than to have to fill your own pain. Yeah. Because I'm in pain, but it's gonna be your fault, so that way we don't talk about mine.
Speaker 1:Don't look at me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yourself, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't be it. I can't be bad. No you're bad.
Speaker 2:All right, the next thing I want to get into. So let's say, a guy's in your group, right, and they have a spouse, okay, I Know. I love it because Prior to one thing you guys don't see is how much he lets me know how easy it is for background noise.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting here holding this microphone so tight. My hand is sweating because I'm afraid that I was like breathing too loud in this microphone or like my hand is gonna like I don't know, like I'm trying to be very quiet, and did you pick up that water bottle?
Speaker 1:More ice than I so.
Speaker 2:I'm like forget this, now it's a party and be dropping this mic and everything.
Speaker 1:Let's go. All right, so we need a good mic trap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I'll do it at the end. Yeah, okay. So my question to you is you work with men. If they have a spouse or they're in a relationship with someone. What advice would you say to the spouse that is supporting their partner as they go through this journey?
Speaker 1:This is hard on both sides, for starters, the people who come into my groups. It's not a rah rah, happy sunflowers, everything's awesome. Find you and be free group. It's a battle. You have a fight inside of you.
Speaker 2:Can I add something to that really quick.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Let me just add something to that, because I think you bring up a really good point just by saying that in Other groups that I've seen, even groups that I've been into, the way that it goes is here's the work. Let me listen to you and I listen, I take it in, and and then the person on the other side says okay, mm-hmm, okay, and then maybe to follow up question. Right, but nothing too like Firm as far as the follow-up question, but just kind of. It seems very like Rainbow like, just like very light serve you know, surface.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's probably, yeah, very surface.
Speaker 1:I don't want to offend.
Speaker 2:For what?
Speaker 1:it'll stay surface.
Speaker 2:Oh surface, oh cuz rainbow. Yeah, I just liked. I was thinking like light very get out. You said for what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't get it, okay, so Okay, um, I lost my trade. I thought, oh, so the thing that I've seen you do with your men is that you do challenge them and you do it In such a smart way so it gets people thinking Very differently than they've ever thought before or maybe not even know that that, that that is within them. It's something that you see and that's one thing. That you're able to connect with these men Um, so quickly and be able to see what they have going on. But you don't just sit there and just take it in and agree with them and say, okay, that must be rough. You don't acknowledge, write the emotions that they have, which I know is a whole another topic.
Speaker 2:We do emotions, they're there right, I just said it's a whole another topic. Yeah, so, but you do challenge back, and I think that's what's so good about your program too. So, anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Do you remember the original question?
Speaker 2:I do. How do they support your spouse?
Speaker 1:Okay, good. So, like when we are training with our guys, it's important to know that when they're going through this, especially by the time they get to the last part of the program, first I teach them to know themselves so they understand who they are. Then I have to teach them who they have to fight. This means we get into the parts of us that are in there for grieving and the enemies within that attack us like doubt, fear, excuses, distractions. You have to understand what they are, how they work. You have to understand to to catch your triggers fear or the fight, flight, freeze, fawn. You have to understand winner of those. How are they working? How do I do it? That way you can also catch yourself that you just got me damn it. I'm triggered right now and we have to understand ourselves well enough before you get in the ring with whatever thing you have to fight, and some of the things, some of them are curses that require to be shattered. They have to be broken a generational curse that's been going on for Decades and decades, hundreds of years for your family, or it could be a trauma that needs to be addressed or a loss that needs to be honored and Go. You have to go through all the emotions for or it could be A demon. There's something in there. There's a pain, there's a memory that's so evil and so dark. We have to kill it, and there can be dragons. There are things in people, in people's lives, that just burn the fucking village. They destroy everything. It destroys your soul, it destroys your confidence, it destroys your self-worth, it destroys your income, it destroys your Everything, everything. And there are people in your life who are dragons and just having them in your life, they just naturally destroy everything you are. If you don't know what these things are, how do you fight them? The reason this isn't therapy is I don't just have you talk about your feelings and then time is up. I have to train you to fight as your warrior type.
Speaker 1:First, know what it is that you've got coming up and once you start opening that up, you have to go through some of the hardest fights, things that have been there for 20, 30, 40 years, and you have to go fight it now. I do not fear these. I'll come in right next to you. If there's a dragon, I have killed them. If there are demons, I will fight them with you. I have killed many. I have fought them back. If there are curses to be broken, I will show you the way to break that curse. There are specific things that need to be done. If there's something you need to let go, I will give you the space to be able to open those white knuckles and let go of the pain You've been holding on to for years.
Speaker 1:So when your person's going through this, it's fucking hard. It's hard and a lot of times you're going to start seeing a wounded version of them a part of them that is that I'm guard, ready to fight because you. They're in a battle right now and I see a lot of spouses and partners, both men and women, where they won't understand what their partner is going through, and it will also reveal the type of partner you're with. This means they're very needy, selfish, controlling, bitter, blame, shame and judge. You're going to see what kind of partner you're with when I'm talking to the partners to remove these things.
Speaker 1:When somebody is going into battle, you are taught to be encouraging, graceful, supportive, understanding. Back your shit off. Don't get in the way of their sword when they're fighting. They have difficult things to do. You don't want to compound that onto your partner. This is both men and women. Both have done these battles. You do not want to get in the way of your warrior who's going through a difficult battle, otherwise you will catch collateral damage.
Speaker 1:Don't be so selfish that a person who's going through the toughest fight of their life now has to take on your burdens Because you can't slow down. It's your turn to encourage. It's your turn to support. It's your turn to give grace. Let them go through this and be there for them, and if you ever have the courage to go into battles, my warriors will be their turn to be supportive, understanding grace. Give grace and give gracefulness. Be cool as fuck when you're in it. Understand you're going to have tough moments and to be there for you while you go through it, because your fight is in you and it's not with me. But a lot of times when people are revealing they're hurt, hurt people, hurt people and it's not somebody needs to do something for me it shows you how not okay you are for you. This is going to reveal the health of your relationship, by the way. It's hard.
Speaker 2:But I think, even hearing that, for for some couples they could be like oh, I don't know if I want to do that.
Speaker 1:No, they don't. Some of them don't, because what it'll do is reveal that you're not a healthy partner. Yeah, and they don't want the truth exposed.
Speaker 2:But that doesn't necessarily mean that it's over right or there's hope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you require. The rule of before the creed is willingness. Do you have the willingness to do the work, to fight for what is worth fighting for?
Speaker 1:And if you are in a damsel mode, both a male and female, if you're just waiting for everyone to come save you, you want everyone else to do the work for you and you just get the benefits of other people doing hard work, you may not be a good partner. And what I've seen and this is something I struggle with Is that we're responsible for more breakups and divorces than saved marriages. Now we do have saved marriages and we do have saved relationships. We do have ones where both partners say we are both going to fight to grow. But what happens a lot of times is when people come in, they're very unhealthy, especially the the men. They'll come in very unhealthy no boundaries, no understanding of self. They have very low self-esteem, low self-worth, no purpose, no, no mentors, no idea what the hell they're supposed to do, no clue, and they have no idea how to even begin. And so once they start understanding their true self, they start finding confidence in who they are, start believing in themselves, they start getting healthier in the way they respond instead of reactive things. They don't get so angry, they're not loose cannons, they're not hurting people anymore. They're being more Cognitive in their behavior and they're doing things deliberately and tactical. They don't give fucks away freely. I give a fuck about that or give a fuck about that. We're tactical in our fucks. We give them. We call them tactical fucks. We were tactical. I will give a fuck appropriately. I don't give them the everything, though Some things are not a big deal, so I'm not going to let it control me.
Speaker 1:As a guy starts becoming a better leader and more healthy, it will reveal where he was when he had his mate. Now, remember, women have hypergamy. This means you date equal or up. So that means your guy you believe is at some point is at your level or better, and so if he's going way better, women oftentimes freak out Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. If you're getting better, what does that do for me? It'll reveal the woman. Now you are both unhealthy, so he's not better than you. When you start, you're both at the same level. But when he starts growing exponentially faster, you now have a choice, and this is where it reveals the relationship. Some women go I will start working too. I'll work on my stuff. It's not work on things for him, it's work on her things for her. So you're both moving up together. Now he's gonna go faster. Ladies, I don't care what you say, I'll take the. I'll take the debate.
Speaker 1:Men are three to five, even 10 times faster at doing this. We're built for progress. It's how we are. We process logically and it goes quicker. Women, they still get there, but it takes much, much longer. You process emotionally and it's the long way it just always is. It's not good or bad, it just is. But since hypochromy system is date equal and up, him going faster works to your advantage and all he wants is effort. He doesn't need perfection. Our guys are like I see my baby trying. I don't need you to be at my level. We don't have hypochromy. I don't need you to be at my level. I just need you to have effort, that you're trying to get better for you so we can grow as a team. And that's been very, very successful for some couples. It's very revealing for the other ones because some women don't want to grow, they just want to be taken care of and the guy growing will start going. Hey, babe, come with me and she'll start sabotaging His, his growth but.
Speaker 2:But even that's that statement of, if women want a hypochromy right and the guy starts to grow, are you saying then like that sounds like that's great for women, right? It? Seems like then the men are like hey, I also want you to get healthy with me. And the women are saying no, like, is that happening?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:What is the reasoning? Do you know what the reasoning would be why they don't want to grow?
Speaker 1:It doesn't seem like a logical reasoning.
Speaker 2:It doesn't sound like that to me, and I don't even know what the reason is.
Speaker 1:It doesn't seem.
Speaker 2:It doesn't seem logical, your spouse or significant other is growing and they're like this feels really good. You don't understand the freedom that you're gonna have from this, come with me.
Speaker 1:And they're like no well, remember, the hardest fight for both is denial. And out of all of the parts to an anger, depression, anxiety Denial is the hardest for both, because truth is the hardest thing for people to process, for men, denial of their humanity, their emotions. We suppress our feelings and so whenever men have to go in and work on their feelings, it's like the hardest battle for them. They're like ah, that's been closed off since I was really little. I know I can't cry because that's called weak or you're a pussy. I know I can't be too vulnerable because it's taken for granted or taken advantage of. As a man, we very rarely get empathy at all, and so we have to suppress so much of who we are in order to appear Strong and desirable to a mate. We have to stop being what we are in that the humanity element of it. But we are big-hearted, we are feelers, we are givers, and so like we have to suppress so much of our goodness in order to, you know, be chosen.
Speaker 1:Women are the other way around. You guys have burdened the beauty, which means you can't just be what you are, because it needs to match a specific look to get attention or attraction, and that means in order to fit in and get approval, especially from other women. You end up conforming or changing yourself to be what a social norm or what is you know like socially Beneficial for you. Because you know, like you work in makeup industry or you work in industries where, like their beauty is, is necessary, and you've even said, like they have sent people home for not wearing makeup Because their face does not represent beauty. That's an interesting sentence to me. That means she cannot be what she really is because that is bad, because your real face is not beauty. You need to look like we say you do, so that you represent beauty.
Speaker 1:Again, that by itself creates an entire belief system that she needs to create an entire mask in order to be loved. She cannot be her or accepted, or accepted you won't, yeah, well, just, you're not good. You're not good as you are. You need to be as we tell you to be and you will be compared, you will be judged, you will be, you know, shamed into compliance. So that way you fit in and you've seen your social circles and you've seen also the girls have seen we're like those be nice to your face and then when you leave, that one girl is always going to say some gossipy shit or talk something behind their back. The ladies are not healthy, so they put masks on and denial of truth for themselves. They cannot deal. That's why it takes so much longer. Is denial is protection for women, because it creates a persona or an image that isn't true.
Speaker 2:So if that's the case, then, and going back to the relationship in them choosing to not want to grow, It'll expose them right. That's. My point is that they are choosing not to, because Even the person that married them right like it logically doesn't make any sense, even as a woman. If you're saying your husband's like I'm growing and she's like I'm not, because I I'm, I have denial of like. If you really know the real me, you won't be accepted.
Speaker 2:Well, it's accept me for me, even though it's not really you right, exactly, and you have the person that Says he loves you the most, saying come on this journey with me. I've changed. You've seen a difference in me. Although the the journey hasn't been always easy. You see when we're going, right. The the guy to lead that and I still don't understand, as a woman, why you wouldn't be like okay, husband, you want this for us. You're opening up to me. I've seen changes in you. I Understand your intention is also to want me to grow, and they're still like foot in the mud.
Speaker 1:It's because they're worried about loss from a judgment that my men don't do.
Speaker 2:But for what, though, if the idea is to grow?
Speaker 1:process what I said. They're worried about a loss from a judgment that men don't do. Just think about that for a second because you're gonna lose something. Yeah because of an opinion or a judgment they're afraid of that never happens.
Speaker 2:So I wonder this. I wonder if that is Is true. Is it really concerning their husband or their community that they surround themselves in? Because their husband's? Not looking at them like that. I don't get your friends, and so you're then basically Bypassing the person that you're supposed to give and care for and love the most for someone's outside opinion that doesn't control anything in your house. Well, it doesn't pay your bills, doesn't provide anything for you other than artificial acceptance, right it? That's so. My judgment is so dumb.
Speaker 1:It doesn't seem logical no, okay, interesting, that's very interesting but it has made it so we've had marriages fall apart. Today's societal push on women to you can do everything without a man, you don't need a man, all that stuff. It is making it so women believe that they don't have to do anything. They should be loved for who they are. But they also want to be rated for what they do, and that's a contradictory system. They really do this is it's like do you want me to love you for who you are or do you want me to actually measure based on what you do?
Speaker 1:And the truth is and I will put the Pepsi challenge down for a very, very large majority not all. There are some women who will outwork the shit out of people. You are one of them, mm-hmm. There are some women who will run a circle around just about anybody, but a vast majority. If you want me to go your housework versus his very dangerous job who does more, you're not gonna win. He did 90 hours, but you did 90 dishes. You know it's like not the same.
Speaker 2:It's not. And take the emotional look at it logically it's, it's not the same, it's not. And I think that you know I can relate to that statement because I've been that woman that has had to Do a lot of things by myself. I've had to work full-time, I've had to provide for the family, I've had to take care of my kids and make sure everybody has taken care of with the. The part of you know, letting myself not to be the best person. I am right. So everything comes before me is what I'm trying to say. And Also, before I met you, I also had the mentality of Men like what do you need a man for?
Speaker 2:Like all they're gonna do is hurt you or all men cheat. Like that was my thing and that was my belief system. I'm like you can't trust a man, you know. So if anything is gonna get done, you're gonna have to do it. Like I have to do it, I have to figure it out. And it's really opened my eyes. Your men's group has really opened my eyes to see men in a different way, like I was like wait a second. Men do have feelings. Wait a second. Men do come to your group and say how can I be better for her, like it really was, like it shook me up a little bit.
Speaker 2:Now, here I am today saying I Do want a man to lead me, I don't want to have. I can, I can do it, but I don't want to have to do it as a woman, it's exhausting. We're not made to do everything. We're not made to work around the clock like crazy and then Do everything else. We're not, and we need our teammates, we need our men because, ladies, you cannot do everything a man can do. You just cannot. There's no way you can. So I think, as women, we have to like humble ourselves a little bit to really look at what is, rather than just what we see on social Media of these women. I know you talk about this often, about being the boss babes, and like, yeah, girl, like you can do it, you don't need a man, yeah, you do.
Speaker 1:Well, let's just let's, because you're more plugged in than I am on some of the the social media stuff. I avoid it because there's a lot of bad behavior.
Speaker 2:I shouldn't say you don't need a man. They're not saying that they don't need a man. I guess my point is Not almost being like anti-man, where they feel like they can do everything themselves All right.
Speaker 1:So what would you say if you were to describe the behavior of a boss babe, like you know, like you're in a society or in even in a world where this information is pushed, so even in just your career, it's very glamorized that it means, or it looks where it is, a certain thing. But like you know, opinion-wise I understand, this is very subjective. What are you seeing, cuz you're? You're way deeper than I am on that sphere. Mm-hmm, what is a boss babe? Or a bad bitch, or what does that stuff look like? What is it? What is it in your opinion?
Speaker 2:to me. I think I can really simplify it, as and again, I hate to use so many judgmental terms, but it's it's one-sided and it's selfish behavior.
Speaker 1:Is it nice or the kind?
Speaker 2:not, no, not usually. And again it's selfish behavior. I'm looking out for me. It's only about me. I'm going to build my empire and I don't need anybody else to help me do it. I'm gonna do it alone.
Speaker 1:It's a lonely empire.
Speaker 2:It's a lonely empire, right, and it's selfish behavior. Like, as women we are, naturally we are supposed to be the nurturers, like the kind ones like to be loving and in kind and nice, like this whole building an empire like and being that boss babe. I See it as as very selfish behavior. You're not. Who else are you thinking about? I?
Speaker 1:Am asking. I really don't.
Speaker 2:I don't see it as being. I Personally wouldn't be proud of that behavior for myself. That just it's not something. And I can take care of my own shit, like, very capable of taking my care of my own shit. But you won't not hear me say ever that I'm a boss babe or I'm like no, like you can do that and you can. You can still have a career as women. But you can also be kind and nice and sweet and empathetic. You know it's possible. I just I don't see a lot of that happening out in society Often well, I look at it as it's not about the circumstances that define you.
Speaker 1:They reveal you to yourself. And if you're watching the behavior of people who have fought and this is where I look at women's rights Women have fought. They have fought for the ability to have equal, say, equal pay, equal Ability to start your own company, to do any career that you want, there's women who really did fight. They're a bras that have been burnt. They're a protest that have happened. There are things that women had to go through that were very difficult to give the right To be able to say that now, by law, I am equal. Not every woman wanted suffrage, but now they have it. Now there's they've had to change the rules for ladies too, but ladies, like all right now we can have, say they don't want to do the work anymore. They want the authority, they want power, they don't want Responsibility.
Speaker 1:Yes they want power.
Speaker 2:They want power, they want the say, but can't back it up, and I think that's exactly what happens. A world without our men being strong men, may I add. The men that are upcoming right now Seem very weak. We have a lot of weak men out there.
Speaker 1:I have a theory yes, because women have been able to start having a say and this was like from the 70s to 80s, 90s and started to shift and now, in the last 20 years, is really coming to fruition, where it's very feminine energy, and With that you're starting to see a removal of fathers from the home.
Speaker 1:You're starting to see guys who are in Extremely difficult positions not saying right or wrong, just difficult because strength is now shamed. You cannot use physical aggression and without being shamed. So boys, don't hit girls. That went from a thing men decided to do because women can't take it, so we decided we're gonna police each other. Don't hit girls. We decided men did that. Women didn't make that. That was a privilege that we created for our women. Don't hit girls. We don't hit our girls. Now Bob and Joe down at the bar will 30 styles box and beat each other's ass For two hours, drink a beer and then go home and that's no problem. They could take the hits, but you, cheryl, can't take one solid. She's out cold and her eyes all fucked up. Like that's not gonna hit our girls.
Speaker 1:It doesn't look good for us. We don't like it. It makes me feel bad. It's not how we're built. So we stopped hitting girls. Well, now that's turned into the shield to create abuse when people have entitlement. You don't hit a girl because we're stronger than you.
Speaker 1:No, you're not no, that was a kindness, that was us choosing not to hurt you. And now girls think guys don't hit girls because we're weak. Well, that's weird. And so now we have guys who are being abused more than women. The numbers are starting to come out where women are abusing more than men under the guise of guys won't hit back. That's not because they are weak, it's because they are strong.
Speaker 1:But women are showing what happens when they have equality, when they have power, when they have authority. They are not kind and nurturing, they are not empathetic, they are not Considering their whole pack, they're considering just themselves. They are showing and I'm watching and my hypothesis is it is revealing that women are not natural leaders. Can women lead in extenuating circumstances? Yes, but are they built to? You're watching the women who were the most successful, the self-made millionaires, the women who built the law firm, the women who did all the bad-ass work, the boss babes who actually Did it, not all the the fakeness. They really serve, they really did it, they succeeded and and they're like. It's hard for me to date now Because I've put myself out of the dating world. I'm not because of my success, but because of my personality. I'm Competing at all times. I'm unapproachable. I'm not kind to be near. Men aren't finding me fun to be around. I'm not interesting to them because I'm coming with the same energy another guy does.
Speaker 1:Yeah and then I can't find a mate. And then they have their own hypergamy level for finances and success, which means their only options are in the top 1% of men and those guys have the most options. So why would they choose the most competitive, angry, cold, selfish, self-centered, all about me, boss, babe, I don't give a fuck about you, get mine. Why would they choose that girl when they can choose a compassionate, kind girl who really will be appreciative of the kind of man he is Like you're. You took yourself out of the dating sphere because you're bringing the same thing to the table. He doesn't.
Speaker 1:A top 1% guy doesn't need your money. Hell. Top 20% of men we're not. We don't give a fuck. I don't need your fucking money. It's not. It's not attractive. I'm not gonna go on a date and go. So you make like six figures how much should? That's my cut. That's not a good dating strategy. You know a woman who has that kind of level of success? They will just swipe that dude out. So your money and your, you know your degree and your success, those are yours. But they're not good dating strategies because guys don't get anything from that. The only guys who get anything from that is probably gay guys, because they both like, they both do the exact same thing and then they both like each other for it. So that's probably about where it goes. Like that's for advantage case, I'll give them that one. When aunt told me that one, I was like all right, we'll play yeah, you got it.
Speaker 1:So this is a tough thing when you're watching what women are getting attacked from for societal pushes to be this thing that even if you win, you push yourself out of attractiveness and they want to blame men. They blame men for like well, you just can't handle it. It's like I don't think you're getting it, I don't think you're, you're not fun to be around.
Speaker 2:I Think. I think there's loud behavior that's happening, and with women, and I'd like your opinion on that. As far as Do you think that's as a majority or just what? What is being the loudness about? So?
Speaker 2:you have the women on that side, right, the boss babe, the boss bitch side right. Then you also have the other, the other side of things too, where Women, starting very young and even I've seen this like into 40s, where they're on social media and social media, of course, is Seems to be a common denominator with most things lately but are on their shake in their butts right and and Doing whatever behavior they have. Only fans right there's. So there's a lot of that behavior too. That's happening. Do you think with both of those, with the boss babe situation and then these other women, do you think that's a majority or do you think that they're just being the loudest?
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know the exact numbers. I do know that it's loud, I Do know it is, and, while it may be, it may start off as the fringe concept and even let's just be super conservative and say it's like 15 percent, you know, let's just say that's what it is. Well, that 15 percent gets a lot of attention and women are gonna gravitate towards, will give them more attention. And so I think you're gonna be seeing a very, very big influx of just regular girls who are going into pornography for attention, because they can do it safely. They don't have to be strippers in a bar anymore. They can do it from there, you know the bedroom. They can do it from their bathroom, you know they can be in their own place and nobody can get them. They're not in danger anymore and they can get attention and money.
Speaker 1:And then even they can they have people who run the only fans Accounts, who are talking to guys and they're getting direct interaction. They're paying for interaction. And so there are, you know, women who are starting off, who will just take their clothes off. Regular women Don't even have to be like hot, hot, like everyone's got a different, you know Attraction or fetish or things that they like so, even very like, even say really big girls. Well, there's dudes who love that.
Speaker 1:So everyone's everybody's got their niche and so you can get attention from your own home and get Thousands and thousands of people who pay attention to you all of a sudden. Well, that's a very big allure, especially if you have self-esteem issues or you, you know, don't feel like you look as pretty or have comparisons. Well, now you can go and do a thing that compromises you know some value of yourself and Gets attention that makes you feel good for something you would normally not feel good for, like being unhealthy now becomes Sexy to some. You know this niche of guys who, like the big girl, mm-hmm and I mean like big girl, I'm talking like 400 plus. You know I'm talking like. I'm not talking about a girl's got a little extra weight. I'm talking about like Like she uses the scooter at Walmart.
Speaker 1:I'm talking like yeah like that's a big girl. And so when it starts getting into those areas, like she's five to four hundred, that's a niche for some dudes. Hey, they love it, yeah, should get that attention. And so it gets into the full spectrum, all the way from the super little girl to the very big girl. Now the attention is free, you can just get it and you don't have to touch anybody, you don't have to sleep with anybody, you can do it right from home. Well, that's a big allure. And especially if they are an attractive girl, the allure is you can make six figures just by compromising yourself, you know, sexually.
Speaker 2:What do you think is gonna be the cost of this behavior as people grow?
Speaker 1:up. Kids pay. I think the kids will pay. Can you imagine being eighth grade in your mom's a porn star man? Seven than eighth graders are fucking brutal. I just naked photos of your mom but not even that.
Speaker 2:I wonder what it's like as these women grow up. Right, as you grow, you hope you grow up, Hopefully you're you're growing, you know as well, you know mentally. I just wonder what that's like for for women as they Grow up.
Speaker 1:For women, they lose.
Speaker 2:No, I know that, but I just we're wondering yeah that's what happens.
Speaker 1:They're walking. There's a lot more videos now of I've seen like you. Just scroll through and you'll see a video of a girl Like doing her sad, pouty face and a dude just walking off and going like he left me as soon as he found out that I do adults industry stuff like it could be only fans or have their own, like you know, whatever accounts they have for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah and the guy going like not interested in that. Good men aren't looking for. You know, women who are Posting themselves naked to everybody, like publicly you can see me masturbate for a subscription Like good guys, like I don't want a girl who's doing that, you know. And they're finding the guys who are attracted to them because they are sexual or they're hot. But guys who are choosing a woman because she's sexual or hot will just be looking for the next thing that is sexual or hot. They'll be just jumping to the next attractive thing. And women who are attracted to guys for money We'll get what they want then jump to the next guy with money. They'll just. You'll keep building this unhealthy Attraction based on what it is that you're promoting.
Speaker 2:I struggle. I struggle with that mentality of Just being going on to the next and on to the next and on to the next, like I don't understand, like I really don't get it. I don't understand that mindset of like Just on to the and cycling through people like that. I don't, I really don't understand it. Why would people, why people do that, especially like at least you know as you grow up, and now you're like okay, now I see that that's probably not the right behavior, but you still see people like cycling through what is.
Speaker 1:Denial is the core. Denial is the core curse. It is not me. You should love me for what I am and it doesn't matter what I do. I should not be measured based on what I, what my worth is. I should be measured based on just being, and. And yet every single thing that they're using is to go. I'm going to measure you based on your, what you provide or what you do and what you can do for me, but you should love me for who I am. That's very difficult.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're good.
Speaker 1:We got a daughter. You want to be on the show? Come on in. We're recording right now. Go ahead and get on the show and tell everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there she is.
Speaker 1:There she is, we're alive. All right, good Dominate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, have fun, be safe, love you. Yeah, we have three teenagers, so we will.
Speaker 1:They have to face this world, the world we're talking about which is, they're directly in the middle of it and we're gonna see what happens to them because they're gonna be influenced, that they get to choose we try hard they have the allure. The allure will be there where that one can, when she has her own place, do whatever she's gonna do and she can make as much money as she probably wants to. That's gonna be one of the old.
Speaker 2:I'm hoping sitting in front of her. I'm hoping. We've instilled enough morals and values. That's really what I hope, because I would not want that for my girls. And it would be that for their girls either. Nobody wants that for their kids and like no, no one wants that.
Speaker 1:No, but she has to choose. It's not my battle. All we can do is hope that we've given her enough tools to make choices to value herself. It's not my call. Once she leaves this building, it's gonna be her world and she's got to choose how she's gonna handle it. Yeah and so you know we can always pray that she makes good choices that don't compromise herself in the long run. But we're gonna have to let her through it. It's gonna just be the hard road if she. Hope, I hope not Listen.
Speaker 2:I'm not pro that behavior.
Speaker 1:It's not my. Thing. I hope not.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they'll all have to face these choices, and that's all the women. Right now, the allure is heavy. That's the point, is it? They can make more than six figures very, very quickly just by being well, I think yeah it's a very heavy allure.
Speaker 1:Guys don't get to play this game as much. We can't go and shake our butter, show our wieners and get nearly as much. There's like tiniest percentage of guys with bright, shiny eyes who can pull this shit off. We're just in the gym all day long. Tiny amount of dudes, but regular dudes just showing their ding dong. It's just not gonna get the allure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, women operate so differently too Like we don't get that option. We have to have burden performance.
Speaker 1:We can't just show our beauty and get money. We don't even have the same infrastructure doesn't work. Yeah, so we don't have the same. I'll bet your ass dudes will be out there if it worked though. Yeah, I'm sure sure they would, if they can think I just show my ding dong and get a ton of money. It doesn't work like that, guys, just we don't have that same currency.
Speaker 1:No it's tough world, tough world out there. It's not easy. Now women also have not only this burden of beauty that can be exploited at their own hand and compromise relationships because a good man is not gonna want to be with a porn star, like that's gonna be a heavy cost for ladies. There's the good men, the ones who are in that like top 20%. They, they can choose. They're not settlers. They can choose. I don't have to chew, I don't have to settle for you.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm and like you're gonna go be with a girl who everybody, everybody, you know, all your buddies, can just watch her masturbate in front of them, like that's your girl. Yeah guys are gonna be like I'm good, I'm not interested in that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't want to watch you.
Speaker 2:We get it. Yeah, I get it. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying me personally yeah, I wouldn't ever want to be with somebody who's like she masturbates in front of everybody For a living. That's just not my choice. Well, but I know I'm in the top 20% and so I just wouldn't choose that. I wouldn't pick that. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And so I go off of your values of a. I'm a lady and I don't do those things. Okay, yeah, it's just not my choice. I wouldn't choose it, but a lot of my guys wouldn't either. They're not looking to be with porn stars, but the less healthy a guy is, the more likely he'll be like.
Speaker 2:I don't have anything.
Speaker 1:I don't have the worth or self-worth for myself to hold a boundary or a line on something like that. And so there will be thousands of guys who send her money and Will use her for her looks and want to. They'll send naked pictures of themselves and they'll want ratings or whatever shit that are happening. It's a weird industry and that's where they're gonna be compromised pretty consistently. Mm-hmm, it's a.
Speaker 1:It's a scent mentality. There are white nights out there who are very toxic to the male community. There's a really weird stuff happening and, while I wish it was a very small percentage deal lore is going to, it's gonna get really bad, probably within the next five years. It's gonna get very, very difficult. It's it's too easy. It's easy and that's probably the hard hard way, because right now we're an Instagram application society. Mm-hmm and you can make a lot of money very easy and safe.
Speaker 2:Your home, you stay home well, even without that stuff like without making money, doing all those things People's morals and values, and naturally I think as a society, are also going down. Like you see, the behavior that's happening out there and a lot of it is is not good, like people are not Valuing themselves or have the self-worth, and so I think that's why you also see, like there's a lot of behaviors out there that are not on both sides. You know, men talking to multiple girls at a time or hooking up with multiple girls at a time, and they're in a relationship.
Speaker 1:Like, that's just people people because the numbers right now is the women are doing more than men. Like the way it's out right now, as much as I'm like men are doing all this, no, it's people right now. It's not men as people. Women are doing more than men right now, and women are responsible for divorce by their own accord, like things they did. I just I'm just tired like what the fuck's that got again it goes. He just didn't meet my needs.
Speaker 2:What are your needs?
Speaker 1:Whatever I want. That's not that's what I need.
Speaker 2:I think it goes back to your instant gratification, though it's. We live in a disposable society. We live in right now in me society where everyone is only looking out, not everyone. A lot of people are Looking out for themselves. What do I gain from it? What do I get? If I can get something different or better, I'm just gonna get rid of, toss someone else in the garbage. I'm gonna go on to the next thing, like as a society. Why are we treating people like that? Why do you think that's happening?
Speaker 1:Because it can. We're in good times. There's no, there's no danger. People can just make whatever problems they want and it's me, me, me get mine Like they're doing it because there's no consequence. Women are getting glorified in praise for doing bad behavior. They are, but even that Orification and that and you get rewarded for divorce.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:We're getting, they're getting, they're getting rewards for bad behavior.
Speaker 2:But but what inside of people like? Isn't there something that just tells you like? I know within me there's something that says like even if that's the case, that still like does not make me feel good.
Speaker 1:You speak for ladies. I'm not a woman. You do the work here, babe. What do you got?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know why they're doing that. Maybe because they can, or maybe because their friend's group is encouraging it, like maybe they were not doing as much work on themselves. So they're just kind of grasping at straws and like I don't know. What do you think it is?
Speaker 1:I already told you, I think it's because they can People review themselves.
Speaker 2:Because, there's no consequence, no consequences.
Speaker 1:People will go as far as they can until there's a consequence and they're getting rewards for doing behavior they would hate done to themselves. That's exactly it so if you get a treat every time you shit on the floor. Guess where I'm shitting?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's what's happening is people get rewarded for hurting people. If a woman divorces a man, the court systems are in her favor period. Even if he's an upstanding citizen and she's a heroin addict, it's in his favor or her favor. He's gonna have to fight, especially for children, and I had a buddy of mine when he was getting divorced. His attorney said that he's like if she was a drug addict and you were an upstanding citizen. If they caught her with the kids, do you know, in the arm, blacked out strangers in the house, they would take the kids out until she was done with rehabilitation and then she would get the kids back.
Speaker 1:Like, the court systems are stacked. Even if mom is not good mom, they're stacked in her favor. Now there are certain states that are starting to go 50-50 and they try and push for 50-50. And there's dads we have that have, like I said, we are not going down without a fight. There are good men out there and they will fight for their children and they have won, because not all these ladies are really dropping the ball on their own accountability and so they're destroying their children and the guys are starting to say like, no, we will do a better job, and the numbers are showing that children with fathers are doing substantially better than children with just mothers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I also think, though, too, like you know, as people are getting divorced and it comes down to even if he maybe wasn't good to you, but you know that he's a good dad or a decent dad or can provide for his kids or at least be there I think that there needs to be fathers in the homes. The fathers do need to be present, unless they're like and both sides are extremely abusive, and that's different, right. But, as women, if you're getting a divorce and you're taking your, holding your kids hostage from your spouse or their father, or are fighting for the money just to, you're fighting for the money, so they also have them every other weekend. Every other weekend is not a relationship, and I feel for the dads on that. That sucks, and I know it happens more to the men than it does the women. Women get the kids most of the time and-.
Speaker 1:They get rewarded for hurting someone for what they love.
Speaker 2:And here's what's so messed up too. Let's just use this scenario If it's the woman's let's say the woman cheated on the guy, right, and he's like this is not what I wanted, I want to get a divorce, but unfortunately we have to because I don't trust you anymore, and the woman's like we're gonna get divorced, I'm gonna get half of your stuff and just to let you know, you're gonna be paying me even more because now I'm keeping the kids and I'm fighting against you to keep the kids more so then you have to pay more. It's all about money, Because if it wasn't and this guy was a good dad it would split 50-50.
Speaker 1:Well, it's not all about money. She wanted to cheat on him and be with somebody else, so she broke every vow there is, and then she gets all the money for it and she gets the power to say you can see your kids when you can and not.
Speaker 2:She didn't do anything To me. That's not looking out for the kids. It's against selfish.
Speaker 1:Baby, hold on. I know that you're soap boxing a little Like when it comes down to this stuff. You're watching the behavior that this is a good man who didn't do anything wrong and she started cheating on him, then decided she wanted to be done with the marriage. She didn't have to do anything for this. And then he's a good father, but now he can't see his children and now he has to give her money for the kids that he wants to have with him. He wants the kids, but now he has to give money to a woman so he can pay for her dates to be with somebody else, when the whole time he's like I was just doing what I was supposed to do as a father and a man, and now I've lost my wife, I've probably lost my home, I've lost my children, I've lost my purpose, I've lost everything, and now all my retirement. That half of that went to her too. That's seen that happen and like I didn't actually do anything, fucked up.
Speaker 2:So sad.
Speaker 1:Like and those are the guys I have that are like dude, she's going for blood and all I ever did was give her everything she has. Like her whole life she stayed at home Like she. I work, I did all the work for her. Everything she has is from me, and now she wants to take everything that I have, that I built for us, and she's like now I can't have my own things and I have to pay for her to have all of them.
Speaker 2:I didn't do anything for that. I don't understand Good men are being punished for being good and bad women are being rewarded for being bad, but even as a woman, it's hard for me to understand what is in, what's within you that agrees with that behavior, other than it's a selfish behavior.
Speaker 1:True colors, but people reveal themselves. If there are no consequences, people will show you who they really are. They're getting rewarded, and so they'll hurt people to the maximum extent. When I say women do not have empathy for men, this is what I mean. There's not even a consideration. In fact, it's justified and somehow glorified that I'm the good one because I deserve it, and there are good guys who are being annihilated for being good and women who are being glorified for being what would be the receiving end evil.
Speaker 2:Yep, yeah, I agree with that. It's that situation.
Speaker 1:It is. It is, but people are making different decisions. Again, this is the writing on the wall. Right now, women are doing behavior. That is the opportunity. Right now, they're gonna look back and go fuck ladies, you had the opportunity when you got the microphone, when you got a voice, when you had the chance to lead, when you could run the show. That was our chance. That was what women fought for to say we will show you we are more empathetic, nurturing compassionate understanding. We have an ability to connect heart to heart. We can lead with a compassion that makes it so people feel good to do what they do. This is your chance. And you're watching women, when they have control, be worse. They're being just like a weak leader man. A man who is a weak leader will be abusive with his power. A weak man will abuse his power. Well, now you have women who are not as strong as men who are abusing their power, and I guarantee you, just about every woman out there can name a time they saw a woman in power destroy another woman.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Like, just create a case. She just doesn't like her and because of her authority has made that girl's life fucking hell, yeah, I've seen it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you're gonna tell me this is women do it better. No, we're exposing that women probably aren't supposed to be and it's gonna come to a head. We're like well, we gave you guys the chance. We saw what you did with it. You destroyed your boys, you destroyed your sons, you destroyed your work, you destroyed your family, you destroyed your men. You destroyed everything for your own selfish greed. You had no empathy, no compassion, no understanding and no ability to slow the fuck down when you got emotional. Maybe you're not supposed to call the shots anymore. And so it's gonna get to a point where it goes back to might makes right, and I don't like it because we have three girls. It's not gonna be good for them. Where they're gonna go like if you want it, fucking take it and you can't. You can't take it, you're not strong, you can't take it, and men will start going no, we're gonna do what is right, no more. Who is right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's needed. Men do need to stand up and men need to be the leaders, and we talk about this, about having firm boundaries and know as a complete sentence. You say that often Like that's what we need our men to be, whether we like it or not, because men bring the structure and they don't waver with a ton of emotions, and that's one thing that society needs. We need our men to be strong because it creates safety as a society and I believe it creates safety for us women too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you won't like it when a man puts a boundary on you, but you'll like it that you have a structure.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You won't like it, but you'll like it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a little sexy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like you're not gonna like that. I tell you this is what's best for us, because I have your best interest at heart, but you will like the structure that comes from me taking on the burden of if it goes wrong, it's on me and if it goes right, it's on us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, agreed. Yeah, you're a good leader when it comes to that. Thank you, baby.
Speaker 1:I lean into what is right. It's not a problem.
Speaker 2:It's a little hard for me, like I'm still learning, but it is hard for me to like I'm like I got it, it's fine, I got it. But then when you have someone that takes a lead and it's like no, the intention is for us and you can trust that intention is good, like the weight that's lifted off your shoulders where you understand like I don't have to take care of everything, or feel like I have to take care of everything. Take care of everything is pretty powerful.
Speaker 1:Well, I still promote you to be self-sufficient, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like I don't want you to be. I don't want you to be, I'm not going to be weak or no, where you can't take care of yourself. That's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think it's important because, like people will view that as like now you have to be so submissive you don't do anything for yourself.
Speaker 2:No, I'm like not even close. That would go against my yeah.
Speaker 1:Agreed, I value your independence, but I also think that there's like a degree of understanding for our dynamic and everybody's dynamic will be different. So I also disagree that what works for us works for everyone. It doesn't. You're all different, we're all different people. So your strengths and what you do, I like that you do the things that make you feel fulfilled, and it doesn't mean it always has to be dishes, because it's not. You work your ass off and to a degree, you really enjoy being able to achieve the things that you do. I support that. But also I do support autonomy, where I have enough, where I can go if things went off the rails, and I do want you to be okay if anything happened to go off the rails. Not saying I want anything to happen, but you know, should anything go wrong, even if it were catastrophic, even if I were, you know, killed in an accident or something happened that was like Totally unforeseen, that now I'm not around, well, I would like you to be okay. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:I don't want you to have to suffer because I took care of everything and left you the Enable to be capable to take care of yourself for the girls you know. So I I also support autonomy on both sides, but together we make 100. 100 makes 200, not 50. 50 creates Codependency mm-hmm. I want you solid, I'm solid. Together we compliment.
Speaker 1:Yeah and we're not competing. It's not who's better or who's worse, it's let's do it together, babe, and I do want you to be okay, no matter what. Together we're better. But if anything went wrong if you'd left, I need to be okay, and if I did leave or was killed or something happened, you need to be okay. I still believe that's what is best. Mm-hmm. I'm not saying I want that shit, I'm just saying that happened. I need you to not be so dependent that it no.
Speaker 2:And I right, but I was, I was, I was raised, which gave me the belief system about men but don't move in with anybody or get married unless you can take care of yourself Financially and that's how, that's how I was raised. So that is still within me Like it is important that I can financially take care of myself, because I don't ever want to be in a situation where I when I feel stuck or I can't get out, and I know there's a lot of women that put themselves in that position.
Speaker 1:I we don't have a societal setup right now where the Infrastructure we have and this is not to be too political, but the infrastructure is designed to make it so you cannot have a single household, no many more exactly and that's our government Failing us, and they've been setting this up since the 70s.
Speaker 1:It's been pretty loud and so it's not like oh, this administration is that's been in the works for a long time to make sure that both families have yeah, or fathers are not, in the house, and that has been happening for a very long time, even, especially the welfare system, and Even you know, I guess to be you know who was targeted racially black people were targeted racially very hard politically, you know, and so those are things I don't want to get into too deeply, but like I have to acknowledge that they were there and redlining, and you know welfare removing fathers is rewarded. This is started to destroy the infrastructure of the family and you're watching the families start to, you know, degrade from the inside out when you just start removing men, start removing fathers, start removing the structure, start removing the logical one, start removing the one who's protecting, start removing the one who's able to be rational in the crisis, start removing the safety, security and make it so that the government, or finances or money comes from, you know, a program and not from a family unit.
Speaker 1:Yeah and then you make it so that women feel like they now have to do just as much, if not more, than the man. Whether it's measured that way, they feel like now it's like just not fair, and women get overloaded faster than guys do. Well, the family falls apart, and so women are always going to be trying to seek what they can get, instead of being a partner that can say how can we have reciprocity? How can we both serve and give to each other?
Speaker 1:Yeah it's a downfall of society. And a lot of this happens Even if you look at, because we're in good times we talked about this this morning. We're in good times, which makes us so we can make small problems big problems. We can have just disagreements become a reason to hate. But if we actually had real problems and so I've made an example this morning with her I'm like if we had an influx of wildlife, if, like all of a sudden, nature just had a boom and now there was like way more wolves and and the geographical location for panthers and fucking you know, lions and shit was like all over, and so now you have to Really be aware of nature.
Speaker 1:On the way to your car, like you know, going from your doorstep to your car, you have to make sure you're working out, you have to make sure you're in good shape, because you have to sprint to make sure fucking cheetah Doesn't come out of the fucking bushes on you and you have to be ready for whatever craziness of wildlife is out there. Well, we're out of the food chain for that. So you don't have to evade a pack of wolves when you're running into the mall. You know, we don't have to be in danger in this way. There's no threat. That's around the corner, that's even just from a natural thing. It's just not around, and so we don't have to fight for food Not yet, at least we. You've got food, water, shelter, clothing. In fact, you can go and shop now for luxury instead of survival like yeah.
Speaker 1:We're in good times, and so then, what are, what are the problems? In good times, you just don't agree with what I agree with, or you don't do what I think you should do. We're in tiny problems. Mm-hmm disagreement is not. That's not the hardest part of the day, it's true, but if you had a fucking pack of wolves on you? And you could die today, your gratitude for your minutes starts getting higher when people start turning into food for a different pack.
Speaker 1:Yeah you're gonna be like baby. I made it and I'm so. I or the wolves almost got me today. Oh my god, I barely made it. I'm so grateful to be here and you're like baby. I just disagreed with how you put the forks in the dishwasher and be like I don't give a fuck if you throw the dishwasher outside Like we got a dishwasher. We, lucky, just run it.
Speaker 1:Yeah like we wouldn't care because we would be in Harder times and that would make us stronger people. But we're in good times and it's making weak people. Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely well said. All right you feel good?
Speaker 2:I feel good.
Speaker 1:We did it.
Speaker 2:I feel good. Yeah, I had a feeling I had some more questions here. I had a feeling it was gonna. I'm gonna go off.
Speaker 1:I had a feeling this was gonna be your show. Yeah, Boxes bitch.
Speaker 2:I feel like I held back a little bit. Oh more than normal, you saving it for the live that we're gonna do tonight.
Speaker 1:You sure did.
Speaker 2:But good job. I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, baby, I love you.
Speaker 2:I love you too, and, yeah, thank you for sharing about the community of men that you're. You're changing people's lives. You really are very proud of you click the links in the bio books.
Speaker 1:Some calls talk to our men and we had encouraged our guys to Challenge everything. You should challenge my competency. You should come in and see if what we really do is what we really do. There's a lot of bullshitters out there, so you should come in with a skeptical heart and you should ask hard questions. If it doesn't measure up for what you believe is best for you, don't fucking do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah and if you go like, this is obviously some category I've never seen before. It's not therapy, it's not life coaching, it's not, you know. Motivational speaking, it's not, you know. Just watch videos and then go fuck yourself, like this is a real, real community, real thing, a real gathering of Camelot and alphas, just all building up alphas. Well, that's for you. Well, it's come and get your confidence back. So, your balls back on and make it so you're the leader you were always meant to be. So let's get your warrior coming out of you and let's get to work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:Well said things baby, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:Good job solved.